Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Oxford University Labour Club

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I don't quite understand why the double standard seems to exist, why Oxford Labour Club is a "speedy keep" and Hull is a "speedy delete". Hull University Labour Club boasts its own impressive list of alumni including the current Deputy Prime Minister as well as several ministers and former ministers. British Higher Education Policy is based around the principle of an equality of opportunity; it seems bizarre to the heights of contradictions that pages relating to it on wikipedia should be so class ridden. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bobbylad (talk • contribs) 22:25, 25 January 2006 (UTC).

• It's not a matter of class warfare on Wikipedia. Indicating such is kinda like stating there's a monolithic entity deciding what is and what is not kept. That's just not the case. Some people vote on some things and not on others and vice versa. Not everybody that looked at the HULC AfD has come here. I think this group of articles has raised a larger question; "What makes a group notable?". That should probably be addressed somewhere, if it hasn't already. --Durin 18:34, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
  • I agree with the statement that these nominations indicate a need to better define what makes a group notable. Just as I wouldn't say that "all things Harvard" are inherently notable, I wouldn't say that something about Oxford is inherently better than Hull's version just because it's Oxford (although some people seem to think that way). The reason I didn't try to speedy this one was not beacuse it had to do with Oxford, but because this article isn't just a list of current officers and notable alumni - it actually had some history in it. As for the Hull and Cambridge articles, the argument of "this is notable because notable people were in it and then left before they were famous" doesn't cut it with me. -- Thesquire (talk - contribs) 21:32, 26 January 2006 (UTC)