Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation

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[edit] {{Afc context}}

I've created this new template. As of now, the wording simply stinks; but it's a start. Please (that's a request, not a nicety) improve upon it. Patstuart^talk|edits 13:42, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clearing the backlog.

I've been working on WP:AfC for almost a week now and I have some observations about the backlog situation.

It looks like the editors here are now more or less keeping up with demand - but it's definitely a struggle. But the backlog is so insanely long (an entire YEAR) that it'll never get cleared - we must accept that it's completely impossible. Even the archived pages marked as 'completed' are often not.

I have a proposal that would help immensely:

Split the AfC request page into three categories

So the top level 'WP:AfC' page would say:

1. Click here if you wish to create an article about a living person
2. Click here if you with to create an article about a living Band, a music Album or a Song.
3. Click here to create an article about something else.

By far the majority of the unanswered and rejected entries come from (1) and (2). They are almost all fail because they are very obviously non-notable. We can add a special reminder to contributors in each of these categories by giving a nice simple summary of the rules in WP:BIO and WP:MUSIC and asking people not to request articles that don't meet these criteria.

Hopefully, giving tailored advice for those two categories (which are by FAR the vast proportion of rejected articles) - we can cut down on the huge number of incoming 'junk' articles.

For the first two categories editors are not required to explicitly reject articles on grounds of non-notability

Instead, if a request is not picked up by an editor and turned into an article within 7 days, they are considered to have been rejected. This would save an immense amount of manual editing. It also pretty much reflects the reality of current practice. It's a real pain to have to add all of the justification and the pre/post templates for all of those bazillions of vanity articles.

It's no problem to scan a long list of those article requests and quickly identify the handful that need to be created - but to individually justify the rejection of all of the others is a lot of hassle.

Whilst this may not be the 'pure' approach that we'd like to take, IMHO it's the only thing that's going to keep the backlog down in the long term.

SteveBaker 12:51, 11 December 2006 (UTC)