Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zap! (computer game)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 08:36, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Zap! (computer game)

Shareware 2-d shooter game around since 2005. No evidence of notability. Xrblsnggt 01:51, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been added to the list of CVG deletions. gakon5 02:00, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep The developers are notable (the guys from Tribes), which makes this notable by association. Ace of Sevens 02:54, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Notability by association is novel, but not part of WP:NOT. Keeping to the issue, a Google check of "Zap!"+game gets a lot of hits, but most of these appear unrelated to the game itself - sound effects, use of the word as a verb, and other games with similar names. I sifted through a couple dozen pages, and found no multiple non-trivial third-party articles to base notability on. Mind you, if such could be found, I'm open to changing my nomination, but the article itself neither states nor implies notability. Tychocat 09:39, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - GarageGames comes out with many of these to demonstrate their development tools. They really aren't any more notable than an average flash game. Wickethewok 13:47, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete just another flash game without any notability. -- Alias Flood 19:12, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

• I don't think its a flash game - I think it uses their Torque engine. I was merely pointing out that it is similar to an average internet flash game. Wickethewok 19:18, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Flash games generally are not appropriate for an encylclopedia (unless of course they were groundbreaking in some way). If it has some degree of notability, perhaps a reference in the Flash or Tribes article might be suitable. Knowing Is Half The Battle 19:56, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per Tychocat, Alias, and Knowing, and inasmuch as a more limited Google search than that essayed by Tycho returns only 425 results, with the caveat that I'm not wholly opposed to our conferring notability by association, but only where such association is neither tenuous nor negligible. Joe 03:31, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
• Zap it, zap it good. RFerreira 03:45, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
• Comment I don't feel strongly either way on this particular article, but I must say how it warms the cockles of my heart that two of the delete voters didn't even bother to skim to the Infobox at the top right of the article. Cheers! --SevereTireDamage 06:45, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

• This is exactly how most articles branded "gamecruft" are being deleted; by people who aren't even looking at articles. (but delete anyway) I'm switching over to Keeping per Ace. Considering how many obscure stub article games exsist on this site, we might as well keep this one. Espeically since it's beyond stub status (and more could be written about it). I'm also pretty sure that the game won at least one or two indie development awards. -- gakon5 13:46, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

• Huh. Looks like it did actually win some indie awards. [1] [2] That's enough to get me to vote. --SevereTireDamage 08:06, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

• Keep per Ace. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 00:10, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
• STRONG KEEP Zap! is a published game being sold for money by GG on their website. It's not just some flash game. It is a published game for sale and in effort to be as complete an encylopedia as possible, I feel like it shoudl definitely stay. Ayavaron 06:45, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per reasons above. --SevereTireDamage 08:06, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
• keep please this is a award winning game not a flash game Yuckfoo 20:03, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep This is a game developed by a notable group, GarageGames. In fact, it is a commercial product, selling for $20 at the GarageGames website. Mipchunk 00:30, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.