Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yu-Gi-Oh! card lists

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete JtkieferT | C | @ ---- 20:13, 21 December 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Armed Dragon, Dark Scorpion Gang, Destiny Heroes, Elemental Hero series, Gate Guardian (Yu-Gi-Oh!), Gaia The Fierce Knight, Gilford the Lightning, Harpie Lady, Ojama Trio, Panther Warrior, Time Wizard, Toon Series, Toon monsters, VWXYZ series, Vehicroid series

Listcruft, unnotable, precedent for deleting card articles, possible copyvio by copying card text word for word. I'm tackling the card lists first, then moving on to the single cards, and left alone the ones that seem important in the TV shows. If you feel that one article doesn't fit here, I'll give it its own AfD. --Apostrophe 03:49, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Given the current deletion reform proposal, I propose this get put off until that proposal gets moved on. Hackwrench 20:39, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Furthermore, it is kind of rude of you making this proposal without making note of it on the main Yu-Gi-Oh! Talk page, so I did so. Hackwrench 21:03, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Yu-Gi-Oh! has a show as well as the cards, so to some extent there are a number of different issues involved. There are people who haven't seen the real-life cards but seen the show and wondering what the relationship of certain cards are to others, for one. Hackwrench 20:06, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete the individual card articles per the Power Nine precedent. I'm undecided on the series articles thanks to the same precedent; it depends on if they're actually notable and/or valuable enough. -- Grev 05:02, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Speedy Delete - per established precedent. --Cyde Weys talkcontribs 08:14, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Can't they be merged somewhere? - Mgm|(talk) 11:52, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
    • Why should they be? --Apostrophe 15:32, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Shoot down this Yu-Gi-Cruft, even if you must reload twice. — FREAK OF NURxTURE (TALK) 15:56, Dec. 15, 2005
I think Freakofnurture's vote shouldn't count due to his apparent hatred of Yu-Gi-Oh! in general.Hackwrench 20:06, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete- lists of no worth doktorb 22:15, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep - These cards list the various series of cards made and their relation to the show itself.
  • Delete - Many of these cards are too minor to truly be worth taking attention. However, some of these, such as the Elemental Hero series, the Destiny Heroes series, and the VWXYZ series actually have great weight on the show. I would defintely remove all of the single card articles that are short and extraneous though Sephiroth BCR 23:15:05, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
    • Keep - So are the Ojama Trio, Vehicloid series, & Harpy Lady. The Dark Scorpion Gang were also an important part of the series do to their leader being one of the main villians.
      • Because characters use them rather often doesn't mean they warrant an article. Especially in the case of Harpy Lady, whose user only plays in few episodes. I can see reason to keep the God card articles, as they're important plot devices in the series, but cards like Harpy Lady only warrant few sentences in their user articles saying "(Person) often uses (Card), which is a (Type) card, that can (explanation of user's strategy or card's effect)." Maybe an iamge if you really feel the need. What those cards certainly don't deserve are articles, with potential copyvio problems, no less. --Apostrophe 17:01, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
        • Truth but if a card evolves into series of cards that revolve on that one original card, it should be acceptable.
          • I don't think so. To me, that's tantamount to saying that people who produce offspring and a family lineage are automatically notable. Series of cards still need to be notable to warrant inclusion. --Apostrophe 19:20, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
            • Most of the cards mentioned are notable due to being used on the show. They are not as major like the Gods, Dragons, & Demons, they still played a big part in the storyline.
              • Harpy Lady certainly wasn't a big enough part of the storyline if all we have for notability is that "Mai uses it!" Same goes for Toon cards, VWXYZ series, and clearly others. --Apostrophe 04:56, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
                • Mai is one of the major characters of the plot and the V-to-Z series is used by two duelists in the anime.
                  • You're missing the point. Because they use them does not establish notability for those cards. --Apostrophe 17:14, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Merge into a single article, the phenomenon itself is notable (although notability itself is not cause for deletion on Wiki), and verifiable.Jcuk 09:36, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
    • That'd be quite the large article. --Apostrophe 17:01, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete - Just because they were used in the show, that does not warrant making an entire page dedicated to them. You have to ask yourself, "In 100 years, will anyone care?"--JackGeneric 00:55, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
No you don't, because 100 years is more than sufficient time to delete them if they lose notability, but if the reverse is true, then it will be a pain to add them back in plus new supporting material. Hackwrench 20:06, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete no claim for notability.  Grue  18:00, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep or merge them, at least some of them are regular (Harpy Lady, Gaia the Fierce Knight) or important features in the TV series and I should be able to look them up. Kappa 02:36, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
    • I wasn't aware you had a right to look up whatever information you wish on Wikipedia. --Apostrophe 02:46, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete no need for having articles on trading cards. --Jaranda wat's sup 05:05, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
What makes you say that? This goes for everyone else here that has little interest in the Yu-Gi-Oh! scene. Hackwrench 20:06, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep or merge, All Harpy cards on one page with redirects on each of the card names. Gilford, Gearfried, and Gaia all on one page because people are going to get them confused and there should be one page to explain things out ASAP. I watch the series and have around 200 cards despite never playing in a duel using anything near the official rules. Hackwrench 20:06, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
  • They should start having communities for groups of articles. Only those interested in Yu-Gi-Oh! should be able to vote for deletions for Yu-Gi-Oh!. Same for Magic: the Gathering, Star Trek, Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica, and I can think of other areas. Anybody would still be able to edit any of the pages though. I just don't see how improperly informed votes are going to help Wikipedia be a good source for information. I don't know where to go to propose this community thing, but I'm bringing it up here because this is a place where Wikipedia's usefulness can get totally thrashed without it. Hackwrench 20:19, 20 December 2005 (UTC)


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