Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ygnacio Valley Elementary School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Mount Diablo Unified School District. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 09:02, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ygnacio Valley Elementary School

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No claim of noteworthiness, no independent reliable sources, and no non-directory content. Fails WP:SCHOOLS3. Prod disputed, without addressing concerns. Shimeru 21:16, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Fails to provide non-directory/prospectus information: this is not a directory or a prospectus, it is an encyclopedia. — Haeleth Talk 23:09, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Just a directory listing. --Calton | Talk 00:30, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy redirect to Mount Diablo Unified School District We can easily avoid this conflict by simply making the article a redirect. It's an elementary school, and there's no stated notability, so why not just point it at the school district? -- Kicking222 02:07, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete and Redirect per Kicking222. wikipediatrix 02:43, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect per Kicking and nom. Should not bother deleting the history if we make a redirect because it will make the history harder to access later if an article is created. JoshuaZ 04:29, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete and Redirect as above. fails both WP:SCHOOLS and WP:SCHOOLS3. Trusilver 07:55, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect per Kicking. (Plus, a redirect might help encourage people to expand the school district article, which needs it, rather than blindly creating more useless, non-notable schoolcruft stubs.) Xtifr _tälk 12:38, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect to Mount Diablo Unified School District. Sources are sufficient for the content presented, but this still should be given redirection as proposed by commenters above. Yamaguchi先生 03:44, 22 November 2006
• Merge/Redirect to Mount Diablo Unified School District. No notability per WP:SCHOOL and no evidence of articles in Google News Archive search and elsewhere online. Merge/Redirect keeps the article history and should be the default option for non-notable schools. Alansohn 05:45, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Schoolcruft. WMMartin 16:52, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
• Strong delete YAschoolcruftarticle Pete Fenelon 01:17, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Calling something "schoolcruft" isn't any more of a valid argument than claiming all schools are notable. JoshuaZ 01:53, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Completely disagree. There is an argument, well established, that schools are inherently unnotable and there are plenty of editors who reject out of hand the so-called compromise represented by WP:SCHOOLS which does an end-run around issues of notability. Asking those of us who disagree with the ridiculous standards laid out at WP:SCHOOLS to justify our rationale within the terms it sets out (which is how I read your comment) is therefore not germane. A shorthand for the well-established arguments for why schools are unnotable is thus to say schoolcruft, even if it is perhaps dismissive. But since the body of AfD debates on schools has been the subject of hundreds of thousands of words back and forth, by this point I think informed editors are justified in implicitly referencing those arguments with whatever short form they wish, to wit: Delete as nn school. Eusebeus 12:11, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
• Merge per Yamaguchi.  ALKIVAR™ ☢ 16:39, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.