Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Xcellent

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was nomination withdrawn - keep. Kimchi.sg 23:50, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Xcellent

Stub, NN thoroughbred TrackerTV (CW|Castform|Green Valley) 01:41, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

• Delete — Does not look like the horse won anything major... deletion is probably the best option —— Eagle (ask me for help) 02:57, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

How would you know? If you don't know the horse, don't comment. Wallie 20:05, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Once the horse wins a couple of major titles and gets some real coverage, then perhaps an article would be appropriate. — NMChico24 04:00, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete — As a kiwi I can confirm this is nn - Glen 04:35, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete In this case, Deleting is best option because this doesn't look like horses won the anything major. Daniel's page ☎ 06:16, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per Glen. —Khoikhoi 07:52, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete – it came third; I thought horse-racing was a first-or-nothing sport? Thus, non-notable. — riana_dzasta • t • c • e • ER • 13:10, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Horse vanity. StuffOfInterest 13:18, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep New Zealand Famous horse. Comment: There is a japanese article (エクセレント) on this subject.--Galopin 13:20, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per above. Michael 19:07, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
• Strong delete far too local in scope, and non-notable even within its community. (|-- UlTiMuS ^{( U • T • C | M • E )} 20:09, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry. The horse IS notable within its community. Wallie 21:19, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Strong Keep. Let me address some of the above opinions advocating for deletion.

• “Non-notable” and “not won anything major”: Xcellent is the winner of the New Zealand Derby, which is New Zealand's most prestigious three year old race. The horse is notable for this alone, and deserving of an article. But the horse has also won the Kelt Capital Stakes which is New Zealand's richest thoroughbred horse race. And the horse has won a total of four Group 1 races from just 9 races contested.

I wonder if the horse had been a Kentucky Derby or Epsom Derby winner if it would be up for deletion. I think not.

• User:Riana_dzasta “it came third” - It ran third in the 2005 Melbourne Cup behind Makybe Diva – which was the only horse in its 125 year history to win THREE Melbourne Cups, and is one of Australia’s greatest ever staying mares.
• User:Glenn – you may be a kiwi, but you are sadly lacking in your knowledge of New Zealand thoroughbred racing.
• User:Galopin who is a Japanese wikipedian and a very knowledgeable horse racing contributor recognises Xcellent as a notable New Zealand racehorse.

I wonder if any of the people calling for deletion bothered to Google “horse Xcellent”. If they did they would have got 33,000 hits. Not-Notable? The horse certainly was the subject of a enormous interest from the Australian racing public when it crossed the Tasman Sea for the 2005 Melbourne Spring Racing Carnival.

I small number of wikipedians are making great efforts to increase the number of articles on thoroughbred racing around the world and their efforts will not be helped if we have to constantly defend articles on our chosen subject. The article is a stub, and needs expanding, but I strongly believe that it should not be deleted. - Cuddy Wifter 02:01, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletions. -gadfium 08:18, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

• Keep per Cuddy Wifter. --Kusunose 13:19, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
• Withdraw nom I am not a kiwi, and I did not know that it won some prestigious races for its country. I now want to keep the article. TrackerTV (CW|Castform|Green Valley) 14:44, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Who would want to delete this anyway? The horse is well known internationally. Probably the same person who wanted to delete the article All Blacks. Why not go ahead and delete Dancing Brave and Ruffian while you're about it. Wallie 20:05, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.