Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Walking like an Egyptian

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The result of the debate was keep. Eugene van der Pijll 23:22, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Walking like an Egyptian

looks a lot like original research Borisblue 02:35, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

• Comment I went to school with several Egyptians and they all walked in a normal and acceptable fashion. see Ministry of Silly Walks for contrast Hamster Sandwich 02:45, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
• Move and redirect to Walk like an Egyptian (i.e., the song by the Bangles), and add content about the song itself. On a personal note, I had a massive crush on Vicki Peterson when I was a kid. Microtonal 02:58, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
  • I agree completely (the redirect, that is not the crush)Borisblue 04:32, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
• Microtonal. I'm onto writing the "Walk Like an Egyptian" article when I get back from work. Apparently, the songwriter Liam Sternberg wrote it after being on a ferry and watching the passengers struggling to keep their balance. The song was their biggest ever reaching #1 in the US and Australia, #3 in the UK see [1]. Capitalistroadster 03:47, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect to promised Walk Like an Egyptian article. Dcarrano 04:48, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
• Comment: It is not entirely unreasonable to have an article on the way the conventional way of depicting people on Egyptian reliefs and paintings has been parodied in popular culture. As for "original research", many of the pop culture-related articles on Wikipedia are in fact original research, in the sense that they do not cite reputable academic publications (or even irreputable non-academic publications) on the topic. Is that even possible to avoid, while still covering such areas? Tupsharru 05:24, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
  • P.S. This, of course, isn't much of an article. Perhaps a more general article on Ancient Egypt in popular culture would be more appropriate. For that references could easily be found. But until that is actually written, this one can be moved or redirected, I suppose. Tupsharru 06:08, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
• Comment: Maybe we can list this as an unusual article. — Stevey7788 (talk) 05:43, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
• Comment There is no reason we can't do that. The Walk Like an Egyptian article will stand on its own. In response to Tupsharru's point, I will cite sources which help confirms verifiability - it is my concern that many of our articles do not outline their sources. My understanding of original research is that it puts forward a new interpretation of events rather than facts or points of view from people with some relevance to the issue. Capitalistroadster 05:56, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
  • That makes sense. Tupsharru 06:08, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Internally sourced and verifiable, it identitifies a real cultural phenomenon. -Willmcw 06:11, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
• When the song "Walk Like an Egyptian" came out, it prompted fresh discussion of the very point that this article is discussing. This isn't original research, inasmuch as there is a particular manner of locomotion here that has been enacted by the world of entertainment for at least a century. Wilson, Keppel and Betty, an old vaudeville act who performed the Egyptian Sand Dance featuring exactly this method of walking, formed in 1910. This particular mode of walking is not connected with solely the song by The Bangles or a 2004 fashion show (Note the date that the article was written.), and did not even originate with them either. A rename or a merge specifically to that song would be inappropriate. The article is somewhat misleading, and could do with some cleanup. No people have seriously held the belief that Egyptians walked this way. Wilson, Keppel and Betty was a comedy act. Uncle G 09:06, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect to Walk Like an Egyptian. JamesBurns 10:09, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and cleanup per Uncle G. I have created an article for Walk like an Egyptian as well. I would like to thank Uncle G for the info about the "Egyptian Sand Dance" which I will add to the song article as the lyrics refer to the old sand dance. Capitalistroadster 10:18, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
  • We've divided up the labour. Whilst you've been writing that article, I've actually cleaned this one up somewhat. Uncle G 10:45, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
• Thanks Uncle G. Article is now called Walk Like an Egyptian with Walk like an Egyptian as a redirect. Capitalistroadster 10:59, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep per Uncle G. Steve block talk 13:42, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Great save. -- Visviva 15:46, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. •Zhatt• 18:07, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Dwstein 18:45, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. There is no original research on this topic, simply easily documented or commonly known facts. It provides no interpretation or synthesis, but is an interesting topic. I rather think that 'Walk like an Egyptian" should be merged with this more general article on the topic, as that song is obviously derivative on the core idea. Cyferx 19:29, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
• Comment: good cleanup, guys. Another example of the VfD process used for good rather than evil. Microtonal ^{(Put your head on my shoulder)} 19:36, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
  • BTW, the caption under the left-hand picture makes me giggle every time. Microtonal ^{(Put your head on my shoulder)} 19:39, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. --Briangotts 19:40, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Great cleanup. royblumy 03:14, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. I never knew what this phrase meant. I had spent some time looking for it on the web and gave up. And now I found it by accident via the link in The_Ministry_of_Silly_Walks. Please, please keep this information. Heiko Evermann 20:30, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

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