Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vampire Species

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No consensus - default to keep Pegasus1138^{Talk | Contribs | Email} ---- 03:49, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vampire Species

This article doesn't seem to have any purpose, since it's basicly just a long list of names of mythological creatures that share some traits with vampires in east european folklore. And we already have a category that lists various types of vampire-like creatures, namely Category:Vampires, making this page redundant. No cited sources are available either. M.O (u) (t) 15:21, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

• Keep, the article explains about vampires and gives additional information compared to a category. Also, no purpose or lack of sources alone are no reason for deletion. Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 16:26, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete already covered in a more encyclopedia manner on the vampire page. Artw 20:09, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete This article is superfluous to the vampire article that we have. -- Alias Flood 01:20, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Both of the pages cited as proof this one is redundant only have a handful of species listed and nothing about that species country of origin, which is why I created this one in the first place. I stated on the talk page that it was far from complete. Besides there are other lists of mythic creatures that do nothing but list the creatures names. If you delete this one then you must delete those as well. Vila 02:45, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • More to the point a section listing names of vampires in the main vampire page seemes to be nothing more than a study of the word vampire.
• Keep-Article has relevant information not included in the main vampire article. This serves is a good starting point, in list format, for people who want to explore the Vampire myth in other cultures. Merging all this into the main article would be make that article too cumbersome. I also say give the editor more time with prodding tag. The article is only a few days old and nothing in it merits a quick death. Agne27 15:36, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
• Comment If this article were to be straightened up a bit, I would gladly withdraw this nomination. But at the moment I see a number of problems with it. First of all, it shouldn't be named "Vampire species", since there is no such thing as different "species" of vampires, such classifications and distinctions exists only in fiction. Vampires exists only in european folklore (or to be more specific, east european folklore), and nowhere else. Pontianaks, Succubus, Chupacabras or Ghouls, aren't vampires. They descend from different beliefs and legends than vampires. A Pontianak is a Pontianak, and a Succubus is a Succubus. Second, this article feels quite ambigious, since it is said to concern vampires in folklore, but at the same time is listed as a horror-related stub. And without boundaries between fiction and folklore, it is bound to become crufty with information gathered from fictional as well as folkloristic and mythological sources - There are many differences between vampires in folklore, and vampires in fiction. That is why there are two separate articles about vampires in those contexts. I don't see a problem with an article concerning fictional "vampire species", though, we can allow a lot more cruftiness (that is how fiction is created and evolves further) when dealing with fiction, than when writing about folklore and mythology. But in folklore, there is no such thing as different species of vampires. /M.O (u) (t) 19:52, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • As I said on the talk page, I know the article needs work. For some reason you think the page should be canned simply because I choose a name for it that some one googling Vampire Species would be able to find. If I had titled it Blood Drinking Creatures of World Wide Folklore and Mythology, I highly doubt many people would be able to find it. I also have noticed that the main Vampire page is part of the WikiHorror project. Vila 07:17, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.