Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Usbob

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. --Fang Aili ^說嗎? 23:42, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Usbob

Vanity, Fancruft, non-notable, unencyclopedic - take your pick SFC9394 12:32, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

• Keep.I’ll say exactly what I said yesterday when the article was removed from the deletion list. “Usbob may be an amateur football club, but it is certainly a recognised football club in the Prestwick and Ayr region of Scotland. There is nothing wrong with the actual article and is more in depth than some professional team's articles. Please keep this harmless article.” - Martin Le Roy 13:44, 15 April 2006 (BST)

I am sorry - it reads as a load of nonsense - "Chairman: Colin Usbobison" - utter rubbish - sources please for this being notable to the ayrshire resion, from the Ayrshire Post newspaper or some such. WP is not a playground for a load of lads having a laugh. The article is pure Vanity it is as simple as that. SFC9394 12:59, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

"WP is not a playground for a load of lads having a laugh." That I do agree with. That is why we keep our ramblings to our website and away from here. As it stands the article in entirely true. PS. the Colin Usbobison bit is a mistake from when I created the article, it's been fixed.Martin Le Roy 14:12, 15 April 2006 (BST)

That is your opinion - I will let the rest of the WP community decide how valid your points are (bearing in mind the only edits you have made have been on that one article) SFC9394 13:14, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Incorrect, I did some updates on the Kilmarnock FC article aswell, though i wasn't signed in as Martin Le Roy. It is down as 81.77.213.120

2 edits under an anon IP which could or could not be you is not an edit history. Can you provide any credible media source to back up whether this team even exists? SFC9394 13:32, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

We are metioned on http://www.expage.com/gullspeed, the official website of World Seagull Racing. It's nice to know we are recognised by other sports.

• Keep.This article should be kept as I feel this team is very important to the culture of ayrshire. i am sure that many others would agree that this is a very informative page, and has a lot of valid information to the team. I wholeheartidly agree with what Martin Le Roy has said in his previous statements. Shaun Cumming12:59, 15 April 2006 (UTC) <-- this comment was actually posted by 87.81.48.82
• Delete. The article is decently written, nice infobox, but a short google on USBOB FC shows only 4 distinct sites listing them [1]. I'd be happy to reinstate the article once they've played a few years more, and won a few notable prizes. All the best to you! The Minister of War ^(Peace) 14:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. Wikipedia is unlike the old paper encyclopedias - it has a lot more storage space! While this article may not be about Britney Spears, it is still well done and is about a real football league. So keep it. george 15:29, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Given the article isn't even about a football league, and the 'club' doesn't even play in a league I am confused as to your comments. SFC9394 15:34, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

It's about a real club that play in a real league, so i am siding with george on this one. Good work!! shaun cumming

What league "Shaun"? (aka 87.81.48.82). Can anyone provide any information on this? Are the club affiliated with the SFA through one of the 6 associations? Can anyone provide any evidence of notability whatsoever? SFC9394 15:48, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

There was absolutely no legitimate reason for you displaying my IP address. I am extremely disappointed that a site of your stature would resort to such a thing without first asking permission!! I am perfectly aware that i am within my rights to stand up for a club which i used to happily watch every week. i made it to a standard that i have now been asked to join this club! shaun cumming

Hey Shaun, your IP gets logged automagically (check the history tab above). It is quite standard for unsigned posts to be attributed to IPs if they have no user account. Sorry for the inconvenience, but it really is standard practice. The Minister of War ^(Peace) 16:25, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

• Strong Delete Violates WP:HOAX, WP:VAIN, WP:V and WP:N. It looks to be something made up in a bar as I seriously doubt that the British Prime Minister is their chairman [2]. Absolutely no sources beyond their hoax webpages. Gwernol 15:58, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Hold your horses son... I'd be ok with this getting chucked off cos of Usbob's fledgling notability. But Usbob is real, it is not a hoax let me be clear on that. Besides, as I suggested earlier, our websites have no bearing on what we suggest is actually going on at the club. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Martin Le Roy (talk • contribs) .

If the club is real, please provide independent verifiable sources that show that. The burden of proof is on you to show that there is a verifiable factual basis for the article. If there is, I will be happy to change my opinion. Gwernol 16:10, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Further to that, can you please hold off creating any more articles at the moment Martin, until you understand how WP works - Doors (Sport) which you have just created being an example of something that is also likely going to be nominated for deletion unless you can prove that it satisfies Verifiable and Notable amongst other policies. It is important that you understand that WP is not just a online dumping ground for any old thoughts or ideas - the two articles highlighted would be much more suitable at Wikicities than here at WP.SFC9394 16:21, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

I'll be honest with you, due to the lack of good Ayrshire amature football coverage it's not looking good, is it. I think everything on the official website apart from the frontpage and news is true. The only other evidence I could produce is from the Prestwick Academy Yearbook from when we played their teachers for CIN. Martin Le Roy 17:21, 15 April 2006 (BST)

http://usbob-fc.tripod.com/id29.html pictures of the team with other real people, thats a start at least. I'll get rid of Doors (Sport), only 4 people play it in the world, i see your point there Martin Le Roy 17:27, 15 April 2006 (BST)

• Delete per nom. ⇒ SWATJester ^Ready Aim _Fire! 21:27, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and Gwernol. RexNL 21:36, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Nortelrye 23:09, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete: nn local club. --Hetar 07:03, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete not notable at all. --Eivind^t@c 15:44, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.