Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/University of New Jersey at Durham

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Please note that whilst I've recreated the article as a redirect to UNC-Duke rivalry, that is not part of this afd closure, the redirect destination can be changed via discussion on the article's talk page. Petros471 13:03, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] University of New Jersey at Durham

Non-notable nickname for Duke used by UNC fans. By this logic, the most trivial of nicknames deserves its own article. Seems fine to me that's it's mentioned in UNC-Duke rivalry, but doesn't merit its own article, in my opinion. Bluedog423^Talk 06:46, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete No need for nn nicknames to have their own articles. -- Dcflyer 07:18, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom, or redirect to the article about their rivalry. VegaDark 08:38, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep or Merge. It's a widely-used nickname by people throughout North Carolina and the South. Possibly merge it or redirect it. I understand Duke fans (and alumni Wikipedia editors) don't like it, but that doesn't make it "non-notable". Dubc0724 12:30, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - reference to name could be put into school's article, serving as an effective redirect. But there is no good reason to create even a redirect for something so minor. Badbilltucker 13:27, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. One of the article's two sources has serious problems. --Metropolitan90 14:00, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment - That source has been replaced. Thanks for pointing out that the source had been associated with a nasty group's site. Dubc0724
• Merge and Redirect. -- Necrothesp 00:31, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete because not meriting a separate article, but OK to leave behind a redirect. Note that "Bronx Bombers", a much more notable nickname, is a redirect. BTW, I'm a UNC-CH alumnus; I am not now nor have I ever been a Duke fan. JamesMLane t c 08:53, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment I guess I could live with a redirect, if it redirects to Duke University as Bronx Bombers redirects to New York Yankees. Thanks Dubc0724 12:34, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
    • The redirect is to benefit a reader who types the phrase into the search box. Therefore, for a reader who encounters the phrase "University of New Jersey at Durham" elsewhere and comes to Wikipedia for an explanation, the redirect should go to the article where the phrase is explained. That's UNC-Duke rivalry. The phrase isn't sufficiently notable to merit inclusion in the Duke University article, so a redirect there would be less useful to the reader. JamesMLane t c 15:19, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
      • Comment - So all nicknames are not treated equally? Your suggestion would make sense if UNC fans were the only people using the nickname. But it's a nickname for Duke, so it should redirect there, if the article absolutely must be killed.Dubc0724 15:31, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
        • Offhand, I can't think of any nicknames that would merit a separate article, but there might be some that are so notable as to qualify. If so, they'd be treated differently for that reason. Every nonnotable nickname should redirect to the article that will be most useful to the reader who types the nickname into the search box. JamesMLane t c 16:05, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
          • So we're back where we started. Bronx Bombers=New York Yankees, University of New Jersey at Durham=Duke University? If that's the way the redirect is set up, I'll stop objecting to this silly deletion proceeding. Dubc0724 16:12, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
            • Comment - So, Chapel Hell and Carowhina should redirect to UNC by this logic. Tarholes should redirect to Tarheels. And Big High School should redirect to NC State. I personally think none of these should be redirects, but if others disagree, then all of these should exist in case people come across any of these terms in articles. I wouldn't object to that. Wow, Carowhina actually already exists as a redirect apparently.... -Bluedog423^Talk 00:43, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
            • CommentWorks for me. It's all a part of what makes college sports so great. Duke fans just have a hard time taking criticism. :-)Dubc0724 00:56, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.