Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tonya Cooley

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The result of the debate was No Consensus. Redwolf24 23:48, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tonya Cooley

Please tell me being a candidate on a reality show doesn't make one eligible for an article. Denni☯ 02:51, 2005 July 28 (UTC)

• Delete or Smerge into Chicago Season (The Real World). (What's a home-girl?) android79 03:09, July 28, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete or Smerge as per 'droid. As for what a home-girl is, I'll tell you some other time. Fernando Rizo T/C 03:21, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, no merge. Reality-showcruft. --Scimitar ^parley 13:42, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete being on TV does not make a person important enough to have an article. Uber nemo 14:36, July 28, 2005 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect to Chicago Season (The Real World) until she is notable on her own merit. Pedant 21:40, 2005 July 28 (UTC)
• Keep, notable celebrity. Article is written from a fan's POV but that can be fixed. Eliot 22:48, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
• Smerge and redirect. I'm glad to see "smerge" is catching on. I guess I can start thinking about not linking it anymore. Oh, and in this case Smerge with a capital "S"; she already has a solid paragraph there, and I think little (if anything) else needs to be added. If there's such a think as a G-list celebrity it is people such as this. -R. fiend 23:07, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. Your opinion that she is a "G-list celebrity" is irrelevant. She has 17,600 google hits. Other ex-Real World cast embers have many fewer, so she is even notable for a Real World cast member, which IMO is notable enough for inclusion by itself. Eliot 23:21, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. When there is a more important article that needs to be named Tonya Cooley, we can reopen this. Galexander 23:28, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Note: User has twelve article edits, the rest to talk, and a total of about 20. Geogre 23:45, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

• Comment. I feel quite embarassed to ask this but I still will: I'm an administrator, yet I don't know what smerge means. Someone please tell me? Redwolf24 23:31, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
  • It's a term I made up and started using on VfD's a little while ago. This is the first time I've seen someone else use it, so I assumed it was catching on a bit. Still a bit early though. It means "slight merge" more here. (Not much more really.) -R. fiend 23:34, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Brilliant! Take a bow Fiend. Redwolf24 23:42, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete: Reality contestants appear and disappear like the summer grass. Until there is some argument that this person appears in some context other than the :15 of fame, the place to put adolescent tributes is on the Real World article, not a break away. Geogre 23:42, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep... Sadly... We must follow precedent and remain consistant. See American Idol contestents for example. Although I hate reality shows a LOT, we must remain consistant with ourselves. Redwolf24 23:44, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment: I agree with you about precedent and consistency, and I'd have pointed to the same thing: We ended up merging those contestants to X-X-Idol-Season-1 and Big-Brother-Season-X. I.e. the contestants weren't allowed to spin-off into the distance with stand alone, would-be biographies, but were largely merged into cast lists and season lists, except for those contestants who managed to do something or be something that got them attention outside of the show. The winners got articles, therefore (because they got record contracts), and any who got arrested or wagged their weenies at Paula Abdul, etc. Geogre 23:48, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment. The article clearly mentions her activities outside of the season of Real World she debuted on. Eliot 23:54, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
  • These are 1) Posed in Playboy at some point (when? is it out now? is it just posing, but not appearing yet) and 2) is going to be on a show on E! that has not been shown yet. Now, again, if there were no MTV reality show mentioned in the article, how would this be an article? "A person who posed for Playboy and who filmed a show that has not aired yet" would not be an article; i.e. the proper place for discussion is the Real World article. Geogre 04:13, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
    • • There is a grand total of three sentences in the article that are not related in some way to her participation in Real World and other shows. android79 00:26, July 29, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Wikipedia is inconsistent. Denni☯ 01:43, 2005 July 29 (UTC)
• Keep - She's a national TV personality, and is/will appear in a famous magazine (albeit undressed). --rob 16:48, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
• Weak Keep - Sure, she's on reality television and most likely will fade away, but she could also become a house-hold name. She is popular with the reality television audience, and even if reality television has spawned numerous fade-away people, it's still worth noting, especially if they are building a name. -Courtkittie 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Delete. Just a reality show contestant. Indrian 16:32, August 2, 2005 (UTC)

• Keep - Celebrity is what celebrity is. Otherwise, how do you explain Paris Hilton? - Tεxτurε 17:09, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
  • When this person has the notoriety of Paris Hilton, she can have an article too. Indrian 19:09, August 3, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Please keep this page as she is one of the more popular people on Real Word/Road Rules challenge even though she is becoming kind of like the little boy who gets picked on by the bigger kids at school.

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