Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Storm

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 02:37, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Storm

A group of no obvious significance, according to the article on its founder defunct for some years. No sources (how unusual!). Just zis Guy you know? 18:26, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete unless someone can dig up some verifiable sources. That fact that it's defunct is irrelevant, though. Ziggurat 21:44, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as failing WP:V, then create as a redirect to Storm (disambiguation). GassyGuy 07:40, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
• Agree with Delete as failing WP:V. Anyway, one small (and yes, defunct) website about something doesn't really prove its relevance. Taniwha 23:53, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, it is well-placed in context and referred to in Zeena Schreck. i can't vouch for their verifiability but the story is easily googable: this is William_H._Kennedy mentioning them; another link here; their own website has a long essay with enough details to convince me it's not a joke. Aaronbrick 04:00, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, meets WP:V per [1] (provided by brick). - FrancisTyers · 13:12, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, if the only WP:V verification is catholicrevolution.org above, then clearly (to me) this article fails WP:V.63.197.134.218
• Keep, whilst the group is small, it 'is' functional and the website has changed; if only being, chopped down. If the entry is being deleted due the group not being functional, I would like to see varifiable evidance of this?

The entry is valid due to context to Zeena Schreck and her place in the history of the western left hand path occult movement. Further, as her husbands Nikolas Scherck book 'Demons of the Flesh' is proving to be a seminal work within its field and the nature of their split from Temple of Set on theological and philosophical grounds, the entry is relevent to the history and development of the western occult world.

• Delete -- granted Zeena and Nikolas are significant footnotes to developments of the western occult world, I don't see any evidence that this organization is. It certainly warrants a paragraph or two in an article on Zeena and/or Nikolas, but given the lack of WP:V and the lack of significance of the organization itself, if there's any organization to be found 2-3 years after its creation, I vote for Delete. 207.11.78.94
• KeepAgain can you give any evidence, that the orgaisation is not? The website has changed, and there is communication avalible, though only through postal contact-If one sends return postage, one does get a reply. However, if lack of communication through email or a small website constitutes an organisation being non-existance, then yes it should be deleated. Though if Wikipeda is a medium for information gathering, then it a valid entry. Unless one happens to have prejudice towards the Storm and the Schrecks, which would not be a neutral opinion.
• Keep It seems to be at least as notable and verifiable as the World Intelligence Network. DrL 18:55, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.