Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Caledonian Academy

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Userfied to User:TCAarchives. Creators admit it's fictional, but wrk has gone into it, so let them have the content until they've copied it. Just zis Guy you know? 17:42, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Caledonian Academy

Schoolboy hoax, featuring a faculty including Arnold Schwarzenegger, and "Will Hung". I at first thought this was vandalism, and there was a real school article somewhere behind this that some kids had messed with. But they'd created it much as it appears here. It seems to be a sort of parody of The Scots College, which the same IPs have been vandalising - there is no Caledonian Academy in Orbost, Australia. There's one in Scotland, but this has never been about that place. I would strongly recommend against moving to BJAODN, as it's not actually funny, and this sort of thing shouldn't be encouraged. I had prod tagged it, but decided they'd only remove it. Sadly, it asserts notability so couldn't be speedied. Strong delete. Proto||type 08:50, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

• the caledonian academy is a fictional place based on that found in William Thomas's novel "William in the Middle." Deletion of the article would be unfair to people intrested in viewing the fictional school that William has created. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.33.167.112 (talk • contribs).
• Comment - this fact has just been added to the article, also. Note that no such novel exists, as far as I can tell. Proto||type 09:02, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

• Comment We're sorry, in retrospect we should have put it on Encyclopedia Dramatica. I'm not sure how the rules work, but maybe our admitting it's all a sham allows it to be shifted to speedy deletion? We don't want to be blocked- at least not permanently. We didn't see it as being such a serious problem, but now we can see the issue. Sorry about this.

• Comment i have read the book, and i liked this wikipedia entry very much. found it useful for english analysis.

• Comment I the main creator of this site never intended readers to believe the school was an actual place and so I only labelled it as fictional when I realised that people were considering the school to be an actual place. The novel in which this school is found is not well known and this site is aimed mainly at a small few that have read or are interested in the contents of the book, for this reason it would be unjust to delete the site as there are some people that have genuine intrest in its contents.

• Delete While I accept that the article was not malicious, it is certainly not verifiable, and given that the book William in the Middle is not listed in Wikipedia, Amazon or Google (with Orbost) I would challenge whether it is well known. To give the details of a character or institution as they exist in a novel or TV programme/film is sound, to invent details that were never the author's intent is not.

• Comment The article describes the fictional academy in the book fairly accurately and though the book may not be well known, who is to say that it won't have future success.
  • when and if the book becomes popular enough to be noteworthy, then this article may become relevant as an encyclopedic entry. An encyclopedia records that which has become notable, not everything that has ambition to become so. Kevin McE 12:49, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. —Whouk (talk) 12:31, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
• merge with william thomas or william in the middle if an article on either exists, otherwise Delete. Niz 16:57, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.