Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Bay School of San Francisco

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep, high schools are notable. Mailer Diablo 10:03, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Bay School of San Francisco

Another high school page. WP is not a directory! Delete --Neigel von Teighen 16:29, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete They don't make any claims to being notable, other than existing. Without a school article that can or will be developed, or maintain some sense of notability, it shouldn't be kept. Also, around 1/2 of the text on the page is a quote from the Schools link. --Porqin 16:38, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Per WP:NN. Thε Halo ^Θ 16:39, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
• Easy Delete, article provides no discernable notability. — pd_THOR ^{| =/\= | 17:03, 26 July 2006 (UTC)}
• Delete per above or merge to Presidio of San Francisco. WP:SCHOOL failed, and the creation of a wikiproject does not confer encyclopedic value to all its subjects. --Coredesat talk. o.o;; 17:46, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. No assertion of notability? LOL, you are kidding only yourself. Wikipedia:Notability is not a policy, nor a guideline, it is an essay. This school is utilizing "one of the largest and most historic buildings on the Presidio's Main Post." [1] You know, the Presidio of San Francisco, a well known U.S. National Park Site which was once responsible for providing all U.S. Army facilities within the Western United States and has appeared in multiple Hollywood big-budget action films. I'm really beginning to wonder how many of you bother to read these school articles. Silensor 21:50, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Your argument about the Presidio being important is irrelevant. Just because the school is in the Presidio doesn't give it encyclopedic value. It can be mentioned in the Presidio's article. --Coredesat talk. o.o;; 01:35, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, just another school, regardless of its location. The Presidio is an important place that naturally belongs in an encyclopedia; that does not mean that a school that happens to be located there is automatically important. Shall we also have articles on every tourist who has ever visited the Presidio, or perhaps every bird that has flown over and been caught in the background of a big-budget Hollywood action film being filmed there? — Haeleth Talk 21:54, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

  That argument is so logically challenged I don't know where to begin. Silensor 22:04, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

  WP:CIVIL, WP:AGF... --Coredesat talk. o.o;; 23:34, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

• Keep per Silensor. --Myles Long 22:10, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep also per Silensor. -Thesocialistesq 22:40, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep couldn't say it better than Silensor did. My comment 2 Haeleth comment: no comment necessary :) --roy<sac> ^Talk! .oOo. 22:45, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
• Comment Eh, yeah, I did read the article. The school is WP:NN. It was opened in 2005, and the page just goes on about what it offers. Building 35 in the school may merit its own article, but the school does not. By all means, write an article about building 35 in The Bay Scholl, put all that info in that article, but as for Bay School itself, Not Notable! As for big budget hollywood movies, WP:V please? Thε Halo ^Θ 22:58, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Silensor. Secondary level educational institutions and above are notable, and this school is on nationally recognized historic grounds. Yamaguchi先生 23:04, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep how many schools in the US are historic buildings on the federal registry? Per my search less than 20. As this is one of that rare few, it deserves to stay.  ALKIVAR™ 00:33, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
• Smerge to Presidio of San Francisco or delete.I had to think about this for longer than the average school nomination here, this one actually has an assertion of notability. However, we don't believe in contact notability, as the spouse of a notable person is not thereby notability (and the spouse of a notable person is much more intimately connected to that person and more likely to be significant to them, than a building is to the current use of it. So the argument that being in the Presidio generates notability for the school is wrong. It does mean that we could put a sentence into the article on the Presidio about a high school being opened there. The other potential claim to notability I saw was being an "independent" school. I'm not certain what that means in California. I take it to mean that it is structurally and financially independent of the local school district - which means that the school is effectively a private company, generating spamvertisement concerns. Those concerns offset any reason for keeping it generated by being independent. GRBerry 01:54, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete or Merge to Presidio. The building is notable, but that does not confer notability onto the school, anymore that companies with office space in Canary Wharf are automatically notable. -- GWO
• Obvious Keep. This school is more obviously noteworthy than many others. Frankly, I almost can't believe this was seriously nominated.--Nicodemus75 08:05, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
• keep please per silensor this school is notable and verifiable Yuckfoo 13:51, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
• Solid keep — This particular Secondary School meets my criteria for notability. Thanks! — RJH (talk) 16:10, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - per RJH. A must keep! Capit 17:25, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
• KEEP per everyone else in the WP:SCHOOL flood above. A school should NEVER be deleted from the encyclopedia. --ForbiddenWord 17:57, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per "flood" and This page -- Librarianofages 02:41, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, almost all schools that exist are notable. bbx 04:12, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per WP:DP --Usgnus 20:23, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per most everyone else. It is somewhat suprising to see such a notable school nominated for deletion. Bahn Mi 21:55, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep A nomination of a high school article by an experienced user smacks of disruption to make a point. Piccadilly 22:23, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. High schools are notable. Erechtheus 23:54, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Question Do the folks in this "flood" realize that this is a U.S. private school that has yet to graduate any students? Their website solicts financial donations. (See [2] and [3].) WP:CORP and WP:SPAM are more relevant to this discussion than WP:SCHOOL which is a failed policy. GRBerry 06:10, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Many new schools don't graduate students after their 2nd year of operation. Many private non-profit organizations solicit donations on their websites (CARE for example). --Usgnus 07:10, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.