Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Basement

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete, WP:SNOW. .:.Jareth.:. ^babelfish 10:45, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Basement

Okay this is a bit of an unusual one. The current text I prodded and it was removed without comment. Based on text, it is a "2006 feature film" but no listing at IMDB. If unreleased: Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. If released, imdb omission seems telling. Delete unless verified and notable based on that verification. However, in another article by this author, (Steve Aaron Misiura), he refers to a 2005 film also called The Basement. This film is listed on imdb, and is a short. Google returns only results to IMDB for the film and writer in quotes. IMDB lists everything. Thus if this is the film referred to, despite the explicit text stating it is a 2006 film, it appears, nevertheless, not-notable unless wider notability is verified (Misiura himself appears notable for another film, mentioned in the New York Times here, so I am not nominating that article).

The author has also added a related article which I am nominating as well: Sperimenta, an apparently not-notable actor/film maker ensemble ({{db-bio}} tag is placed so this may become moot). Note that a related third article by this author, SEFF, was speedily deleted, and has been reposted and tagged by another editor with {{db-repost}}. Update: Speedy tag on Sperimenta removed by ip editing all the same articles as author.

One more wrinkle in this saga: if you look at the The Basement's revision history, you'll see that it was originally an article about a vegan cafe in Manchester England that is a "key resource for activism". Putting aside the impropriety of usurping that article because it had the name this author wanted, I am nominating that previous revision for deletion as well, as a non notable restaurant, so there is no call for just reverting to prior text.--Fuhghettaboutit 07:05, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

• Delete The vegan café may have been not notable, but to simply turn it into an article about a film is vandalism. David Sneek 07:30, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Not notable. If it becomes notable later, it can be reconsidered. Bejnar 09:09, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, nn. --Terence Ong 16:21, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Not notable. I can't verify the existance of the movie. --Starionwolf 18:20, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete notability issues; I was following some of this last night, and noted that a couple of the related articles were deleted, reposted, deleted... bit of a mess, really. Tony Fox 19:22, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete and protect - to discourage recreation of the movie article. B.Wind 02:52, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete non-existent film on the face of it, hoax and nonsense if you start digging a little. I was particularly amused by the claim of editing by the Finbonacci sequence. Tychocat 02:17, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

I AM STEVE AARON MISIURA AND I MADE THIS FILM, I'M NEW TO WIKIPEDIA AND CLEARLY BUGGERED UP THE ENTRY. BESIDES ACCIDENTLY ERASING THE ORIGINAL ARTCLE I TRIED TO USE AS A TEMPLATE. I THOUGHT WIKIPEDIA MIGHT BE A GREAT WAY TO GET SOME INFO OF THE FILM OUT THERE, CLEARLY I WAS WRONG. I WOULD LIKE EVERYTHING TO BE DELETED. I NO LONGER HAVE ANY DESIRE FOR MY FILM, MY COMPANY OR MY NAME TO APPEAR IN WIKIPEDIA. THE OTHER CONTRIBUTORS SEEM TO BE SMALL MINDED PHILISTINES AND I'D PREFER NO ASSOCIATIONS. FOR THE RECORD THE FILM WAS STARTED IN 2005 AND COMPLETED IN 2006, HENCE CONFUSION OVER THE DETAILS. IT WAS EDITED TO THE FIBONACCI SEQUENCE AND IS NOT NONSENSE, A HOAX OR OTHERWISE. IT IS HOWEVER A SADLY BEAUTIFUL FILM THAT DEALS WITH THE DEVASTATION OF TERRORISM. IT IS ALSO LISTED (INCORRECTLY) ON IMDB - THAT ISSUE IS BEING ADDRESSED. I DO HOPE YOU ENJOY THE FILM ON ITS (YET TO BE CONFIRMED) RELEASE. CHEERS FOR THE SUPPRT.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.6.205.22 (talk • contribs) .

• Comment to above Wikipedia is not a method of bringing forth information, but rather recording information. Wikipedia is not a device that belongs to everyone. There are simplier ways to promote a film, breaking the rules for personal gain is not one of them. Yanksox 03:01, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
• Comment to above Well slap my wrists. As I said, please delete any reference

Comment I stand corrected on one point, apparently there is a reference to the russian filmmaker Eisenstein editing the movie "Potemkin" based on using Fibonacci numbers to determine how long certain scenes should run. (http://www.mcs.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/R.Knott/Fibonacci/fibInArt.html#films). However, my vote remains as above in this context. Tychocat 10:42, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.