Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thardferr

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete. I discounted 6 keep votes and 1 delete vote. In the interests of civility, I won't explicitly mention who they are, but they're all fairly new editors whose edits were restricted to their user pages, Thardferr, or AfDs. This leaves 8 deletes and 2 keeps (one of the keep votes being weak). Deathphoenix ʕ 14:33, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thardferr

• Keep This wasnt even created a month time (no reason for speedydeletion), if you use Google/Alexia search for MMORPG you will get mainly FFXI, Warcraft,Lineage, Everquest mainly... all pay games with very very high player base due to you pay for it.. a free game which does almost zero advertising will not be able to compete... which is most games btw. As for Non-Notable comments note why its NN at least say why its Non-Notable, aside from the google/alexia all of the article is revelant and much played then some games listing on the Wikipedia MMORPG Category:Massively multiplayer online games and a more constant player base then most games.. dont know about the player ammount.. but im shure you guys are wrong, its more then 1000-2000 players (cant check due to round restart) Eijun

• Delete Fancruft. Non-notable. Misunderestimated 03:12, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete The Alexa rank is 802,300, and it has 173 unique Google hits. Very poor indeed for an online web-based game. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 03:23, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per all above. Royboycrashfan 03:37, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete nn.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 05:28, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete nn. --Siva1979^{Talk to me} 09:41, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, nn. --Terence Ong 11:00, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete due to Alexa and Google stats.  (aeropagitica)  11:16, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as non-notable. —-- That Guy, From That Show! ^(talk) 2006-03-03 13:41Z
• Keep A 3 month long game of Thardferr attracts over 1000 active players--which is larger than the active players of some corporate games that are listed in Wikipedia. It is a non-profit game and has been around for years. It obviously has its own well-established community. Wikipedia readers would benefit from the ability to know about the possibility for a non-profit game such as this to succeed. It is not nationally famous, but as the Vanity Page says, "There is currently no consensus about what degree of recognition is required to justify a unique article being created in Wikipedia." However I would also say that Thardferr is part of a larger subculture of online fantasy gaming in the D&D tradition. Perhaps a larger article dealing with this gaming subculture would be more appropriate. Mango Smoothy 14:15, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
• There seems to be precedence for pages like this in Category:Massively multiplayer online games. Perhaps there needs to be a general summary page on non-profit MMOGs? Weak keep — RJH 18:47, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep A major reason this game currently is not as popular as many other famous MMORPG's is simply because unlike other games it does not Advertise in any way. The only way new players come to this game is by random chance or word of mouth by other users. That stated, the fact that between 1 and 2 thousand players from all over the globe (USA, Canada, Mexico, England, Turkey,Pakistan, Netherlands, India, Portugal, Philippines, and i am sure countless more) come to this game based on word of mouth advertising is quite impressive. Not only that but it continues to draw back the players round after round, as some people who originally found it when it started in 1999 are still among the current players base. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jrb225 (talk • contribs) . Only edits are here and Thardferr Cursive 22:45, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Same as above. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.123.54.217 (talk • contribs) . 4 edits, one here, two at Thardferr Cursive 22:45, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep As stated above games with a more narrow player base are sustained, and simply because the game does not advertise it comes up with fewer hits. While using a wiki for this information is perhaps not the most preferable way, displaying it as such should not be something that is any less worth of display than something else. If the purpose of Wikipedia is to expand the possible topics people can search for, then by keeping it it has just done so by one more topic. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.217.250.109 (talk • contribs) . 2 edits, one here, one at Thardferr Cursive 22:45, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as per nom. MCB 02:42, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Same as above. Andymc 18:16, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Added unsigned templates here as I was bored and to help closing admin. Cursive 22:45, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

• Keep See Eijun's post, I agree with him Penguins

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.