Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Terry Kilrea
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. - Mailer Diablo 22:19, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Terry Kilrea
Never held public office, just an also-ran. Fails to meet WP:BIO guidelines. Delete Atrian 19:32, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
- Keep, per discussion below. Meets WP:BIO. Kafziel 12:38, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Delete per above. He gets a lot of Google hits and he's mentioned quite a bit in several independent articles, but I don't see any major sources doing stories solely about him. No contributions to government, no published work. Kafziel 19:37, 3 August 2006 (UTC) - Delete per nom. --Usgnus 19:42, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
- I never thought I'd say this, because I believe Terry Kilrea to be a complete and utter %#*!$#!, but I would have to say keep. He has received a lot of press coverage in the Ottawa area, most recently about the troubles he's having running for office as a public servant (he's employed by the province). He got a lot of coverage the last time around too, since he served as a bit of a lightning rod on a number of issues (anti-smoking by-law, bilingualism, rural discontent, etc.), and he didn't disappear from the media between elections the way some candidates do. Sadly, I think he meets WP:BIO. --Skeezix1000 20:36, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
- Keep If you lived in Ottawa, you would know why :) --
Earl Andrew - talk 01:34, 4 August 2006 (UTC) - Keep per Earl Andrew. The guy is quite notable. Ardenn 01:38, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- Delete I try to keep an open mind but there is nothing in this article that makes him notable. As per Atrian, he doesn't rate an article. Maybe after he gets elected. --Suttungr 04:29, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- I'm sorry you feel that way. The article could use some additions. He is certainly more notable than say Donna Upson who ran for mayor last time and survived deletion. The point is, Kilrea has raised quite a bit of controversy and is quite notable in the city. Anyone familiar with local Ottawa politics will know who Kilrea is because of this. I must say I am baffled as to why this is being deleted, but as I can see, it's just people who are not from Ottawa who are unable to understand the notability of Mr. Kilrea. -- Earl Andrew - talk 04:54, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- Well, in what way does he meet WP:BIO? It doesn't seem that he "has been the primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person." As I said, he's mentioned in quite a few things, but not as the main subject. He has not had his own work published. He has not done important things in government, since he has never been in government. He may be notable, but that needs to be verifiable. Saying, "If you lived in Ottawa, you would know why," is not a valid reason for keeping the article. If nobody can come up with sufficient sources, my delete vote will stand. Kafziel 12:05, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- Given his controversial stands on a number of issues, he has been the main subject of significant media coverage over the years. In many ways, the media has treated him as a spokesman for right-wing views on local issues. Page one of my Google search located the following recent coverage ([1], [2], [3], and[4]), the focus of which is on Kilrea. He meets WP:BIO. His name is, unfortunately, in the news all the time. --Skeezix1000 12:33, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- Those results are very different from the Google search I performed yesterday. I couldn't find a single article with his name in the headline. Okay, since this is verifiable, I will change my vote. Kafziel 12:38, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- I agree with Kafziel that the statement "If you lived in Ottawa, you would know why" is pretty ambiguous. To somebody not from Ottawa, taking the article at face value, there is nothing remarkable about this person. So it would improve the article to cite these sources mentioned by Skeezix1000 in the article itself. --Atrian 13:51, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- Agreed. Since I am such a big fan of Mr. Kilrea, I will leave the edits to another user. In the meantime, I have slapped an importance template on the article. --Skeezix1000 19:14, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- Given his controversial stands on a number of issues, he has been the main subject of significant media coverage over the years. In many ways, the media has treated him as a spokesman for right-wing views on local issues. Page one of my Google search located the following recent coverage ([1], [2], [3], and[4]), the focus of which is on Kilrea. He meets WP:BIO. His name is, unfortunately, in the news all the time. --Skeezix1000 12:33, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- Well, in what way does he meet WP:BIO? It doesn't seem that he "has been the primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person." As I said, he's mentioned in quite a few things, but not as the main subject. He has not had his own work published. He has not done important things in government, since he has never been in government. He may be notable, but that needs to be verifiable. Saying, "If you lived in Ottawa, you would know why," is not a valid reason for keeping the article. If nobody can come up with sufficient sources, my delete vote will stand. Kafziel 12:05, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- I'm sorry you feel that way. The article could use some additions. He is certainly more notable than say Donna Upson who ran for mayor last time and survived deletion. The point is, Kilrea has raised quite a bit of controversy and is quite notable in the city. Anyone familiar with local Ottawa politics will know who Kilrea is because of this. I must say I am baffled as to why this is being deleted, but as I can see, it's just people who are not from Ottawa who are unable to understand the notability of Mr. Kilrea. --
- It should be kept definitely, there are numerous other articles on people similar to his situation, so the deletion tag should be VANISHED IMMEDIATELY Look also at the last sentence too family member of a famous coach ,it's like the same thing as you put a celebrity's sister or father, so another reason why Terry Kilrea should be kept, not to mention his contreversial platform or views--
P.S : One may want to add LArry O'Brien, the Calian chairman who just entered the race - may have some similarities, like been Anti O-Train
JForget 22:55, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:BIO (Major local political figures who receive (or received) significant press coverage) --Purplezart 23:46, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- Keep definitely notable -- Samir धर्म 16:53, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
- KEEP The mayors race in Ottawa is heated this year, and Terry will be certain to play a significant role, even if he is not a high scoring entrant. His name has been in the news at least every couple of weeks so far in the lead up, and with out a doubt folks will be looking for an article to ansewer the question "who is this guy"cmacd 19:57, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
