Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Survivor car curse

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Merge with Survivor Trivia. --Madchester 19:17, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Survivor car curse

Fails WP:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_a_publisher_of_original_thought, namely Wikipedia is not a provider of Original research. No secondary (media) sources support the claims and ideas presented in the article. Madchester 00:58, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

• Weak keep and clean-up. The Survivor car curse has been mentioned by multiple notable sources, including Car.com, Los Angeles Times, MSNBC, USA Today (the article currently only exist in Google's cache), and even the offical CBS Survivor website. In fact, it seems that it was the "Survivor car curse" that cause many car manufacturers, such as GM, to stop sponsoring Survivor.--TBCTaLk?!? 01:30, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. The links provided only mention the phenomeon in passing. The actual topic covered by the news reports are about product placements by automakers on the television program and not the "curse". Information provided in the Wikipedia article is original research at best, with fans drawing such conclusions, not media sources. Likewise, nowhere in the media provided does it suggest that the "curse" has detered advertisers from having cars on the show; please don't insert personal opinions or theories into the fold. Thanks. --Madchester 07:05, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
    • First of all, being acknowledged by all the above articles and by the Survivor contests themselves, does mean this meme is more widespread that if the curse was made up by some kid on a school one day . Also, it isn't my personal opinion/theory, I based my comment after the USA Today story which states that "In fact, no one who has won the car challenge has gone on to win the game. And the promotion doesn't seem to be faring well for the sponsor, either. General Motors has given away nine different car and truck models to Survivor contestants, and none is seeing particularly robust sales." However, I do admit I might have jumped to conclusions...--TBCTaLk?!? 14:46, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Strong Keep or Merge to Survivor Trivia. It is significant to teh show's history. -AMK152 02:54, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Strong Keep - has been mentioned several times and is often openly acknowledged by the show and contestants. FireSpike 03:28, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete or at most merge to Survivor (TV series). Does anyone actually believe there is such a curse, or is it just an amusing show-reference? I mean, that there really is a supernatural force at work stopping the car winners from winning the show? eaolson 03:40, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. It's no different from other superstitions such as the Kennedy Curse, where a few coincidences cause people to believe that some sort of "curse" or "conspiracy" is involved.--TBCTaLk?!? 04:27, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
• Merge into the Survivor trivia, or delete.--Cúchullain ^t/c 03:43, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as non-encyclopedic collection of TV show trivia, whether or not it is OR. Sandstein 05:40, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
• Merge to Survivor Trivia. Seems signifigant enough to deserve a mention. AmitDeshwar 07:48, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
• Merge only the table to Survivor Trivia, and put in the sentence, "All 11 winners of the car giveaway have never won Survivor." Take nothing else. TeckWiz is 12 yrs old^TalkContribs_{# of Edits} 12:47, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
• Weak delete.--Drahcir^{my talk} 19:21, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
• Merge with Survivor Trivia. Not notable enough to deserve its own article. --Ineffable3000 22:56, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep or Merge. íslenskur fellibylur #12 _(samtal) 22:13, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per FireSpike. SeanMD80^{talk | contribs} 18:42, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - the fact that its a (minor) theme of the show combined with the links cited by TBC make it notable. Madchester is right that the media coverage is more focused on the product placement angle. However, this adds an interesting element to the article and raises it to the requisite level of notability, IMO. The article should include more information on the effect of this "curse" on product placement and advertising. -Kubigula (ave) 04:19, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.