Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steve Reich (Army)

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The result of the debate was delete. Woohookitty 20:34, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Steve Reich (Army)

It's kind of sad that this guy died, but he's not really notable otherwise, and Wikipedia is not a memorial (WP:NOT). Scott5114 5 July 2005 08:53 (UTC)

• Keep. Yes, I know I wrote the article, but this guy is pretty notable - a champion baseballer who died on a well-publicised mission in Afghanistan. Sort of like Pat Tillman, albeit on a smaller scale. Anyway, if this is not notable, I'll accept it. But he may be honored for the mission he died in, and I might resurrect the article (if deleted) should that happen. Harro5 July 5, 2005 09:11 (UTC)
• Delete Not notable as a talented amateur baseballer, not notable as some army guy who was shot down in a helicopter. Still not notable when both are combined. WP:NOT etc etc. Proto t c 5 July 2005 13:21 (UTC)
• Delete With fond thoughts to his family, I have to vote to delete. I'm sure there are good memorial sites on which he can be listed. -Harmil 5 July 2005 14:24 (UTC)
• Weak keep. I remember hearing about this mission+rank of Major+amateur baseball= weak keep. --Scimitar 5 July 2005 14:59 (UTC)
  • Comment. If we had an EnWiki article for every Major in the Army, we'd get to a million articles a lot faster. Fernando Rizo 5 July 2005 16:09 (UTC)
• Delete. That he is "Pat Tillman on a smaller case" sounds very non-notable to me. And we're still not a US Army memorial site... /Peter ^Isotalo July 5, 2005 16:00 (UTC)
• Delete I feel for his family, but Wikipedia is not a memorial. DJ Clayworth 5 July 2005 18:12 (UTC)
• Userfy to either Harro5's page or mine. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 5 July 2005 19:46 (UTC)
• Delete per Proto, however, observe 4480 Google hits. They seem to be almost exclusively about his death, however, and WP:NOT a memorial. -Splash 5 July 2005 21:06 (UTC)
• Weak delete, WP:NOT a memorial, and not really notable enough. Certainly include him if there's any reason to create a list of Pat Tillman types. But by himself, "Steve Reich" + "career statistics" turns up nothing relevant, and that test is usually pretty good for determining notability of baseball players. --Idont Havaname 5 July 2005 21:32 (UTC) New vote below. --Idont Havaname 5 July 2005 23:17 (UTC)
• Weak Keep It makes me sad that a video game player Emil Christensen would deserve a page here, but Major Reich does not. While Reich's name may not have made it out in the news, the event did. --Habap 5 July 2005 22:45 (UTC)
  • Is it worthy enough to write an article on the crash, even a short stub? Would that helkp keep this Reich article? I'd be willing to write such a piece - respond here or on my talk page. Harro5 July 5, 2005 22:49 (UTC)
    • We have an article listing those; see below. --Idont Havaname 5 July 2005 23:17 (UTC)
• Switching my vote from a weak delete to Strong merge with Casualties of the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan. Since he died in Operation Enduring Freedom, the article content would fit well there (that article is also in severe need of an update, as it's got no new casualties since January 2004). Since he died with 16 other troops, his incident would certainly make that list; the list has incidents where as few as four soldiers were killed. Maybe it should read, "June 28, 2005: 17 American soldiers, including former West Point baseball player Steve Reich, ...". Just a suggestion. --Idont Havaname 5 July 2005 23:17 (UTC)
• Delete. Wikipedia is not a memorial nor is it WikiNews. Rossami (talk) 6 July 2005 02:02 (UTC)
• Delete. Wikipedia is not a war memorial. Wikipedia is not a fan club for the US armed forces. Fifelfoo 6 July 2005 03:43 (UTC)
  • Comment: While I accept your votes to delete (see above), please do not try to brush this article off as some sort of "look at those brave Americans" promo - this is an article with interesting and factual content, albeit isn't right for an encyclopedia. Harro5 July 6, 2005 03:48 (UTC)
• Delete wikipedia is not a memorial. JamesBurns 6 July 2005 06:54 (UTC)
• Keep notable.  Grue  6 July 2005 11:56 (UTC)
• Delete, WP:NOT a memorial. Radiant_>|< July 6, 2005 13:31 (UTC)
• Delete. Every war death is notable, but not every death is individually encyclopedically notable. Quale 7 July 2005 20:45 (UTC)

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