Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Soiling

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep, no consensus. SushiGeek 01:04, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Soiling

Content should be moved to Encopresis or Fecal incontinence -- AfD nomination partially added by User:Laurap414, completed by ConDem^Talk 05:05, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

• Merge with Encopresis. Needs a lot of cleanup. (The article, that is, not "soiling" itself...) ConDem^Talk 05:12, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Merge per above. Royboycrashfan 05:16, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Comment

Mostly Soiling and Encopresis are used synonymosly. Some experts however distinguish Soiling from encopresis: Soiling is due to constipation and stool withholding with psychological and behavioral consequences, encopresis is associated with oppositional defiant disorder or conduct disorder and less common. fecal incontinence being the most generalised term.

If it has to be merged, than strictly encopresis and fecal incontinence would need to me merged too. The 3 all mean pretty much the same with minor differences mainly depending on the context.

This article is purely about soiling due to constipation with concrete guidelines on management.

Aberpete 05:23, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

If you read the article on Encopresis, you'll see it talks about involuntary soiling, due to both constipation and psychological reasons. Either way, though, Wikipedia is not a how-to guide, and so perhaps these concrete guidelines don't belong here... ConDem^Talk 05:51, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

• Keep I'm torn, but per cleanup there can be a percieved difference...and I love that picture. T K E 06:15, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Comment Having reread the article on soiling, I notice it also mentions psychological factors. Are we sure there's a difference here? ConDem^Talk 06:33, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep although it needs work. James Kendall [talk] 11:35, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect to encopresis. -- Kjkolb 12:41, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• This content should probably be on the Encopresis page. Encopresis and Soiling are essentially the same. Seems like this page was written by a medical provider so it's pretty specific. The pictures are very good. This is a very difficult issue and parents will benefit from having any/all information on the site. [ac] --155.41.112.1 13:39, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep I would like to do a "cleanup", meaning I could translate the article in lay-terms that are easier to understand and adding references and evidence. But I will only do it once the threat that the article will disappear shortly is being lifted, because I don't want to do the work just for somebody else to delete it. I think I have a very good article on this subject valuable for all who are affected by this problem, and I understand it needs cleanup. But I also understand Mr.Condem who thins that a Guide on Management doesn't belong to an Encyclopedia. Please make up your mind whether I should carry on with cleaning or not. I would not be happy to alter the Encopresis- or Fecal soiling- pages, because these articles are both very good as they are, and I don't want to mess them up. Aberpete 19:20, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
• Merge with Encopresis. Avalon 19:51, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.