Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sideshow (Michigan State University)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete – Gurch 13:13, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sideshow (Michigan State University)

• Delete. I do not believe that a television show only broadcast on a campus television network, with no significant broadcasts and no significant alumni (I personally do not count the Slate columnist as significant enough for keeping this article), is sufficient enough in notability to warrant inclusion on Wikipedia. — Mike • 19:57, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
• Don't Delete. There is extensive information on this article that would be difficult to recover, and furthermore the show is being worked for a more public broadcast in the near future. Having it here is useful to people from the area, and useful to everybody else given the link where episodes may be viewed (making it a valid web show for everyone and thus meriting inclusion). Warteen 02:12, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
  • If information is "difficult to recover", because it does not exist outside of Wikipedia, then the article is violating our fundamental Wikipedia:Verifiability policy. Wikipedia is not a primary source nor a web hosting service. If you wish to have a web site for hosting a page where you can record primary source material about something, then you have come to the wrong place. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, a tertiary source. Uncle G 12:51, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nomination. (I see no mention of a Slate columnist in the article, just a State News cartoonist, State News being the Michigan State student newspaper.) If the information would be difficult to recover, it can be moved to Warteen's user space if he would prefer. --Metropolitan90 04:25, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
  • I have moved the information to my user space in case, as you suggested, but I still do not want to see the page get deleted if it can be helped. Adam 12:14, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
• Slight merge to Michigan State University. —Quarl ^(talk) 2006-06-22 08:16Z
• Merge to Michigan State University per Quarl. If not, Delete. -- Wikipedical 17:09, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
• Main reason to vote Don't Delete: Online broadcasts have been shown to be sufficient. This is evident in entries for Homestar Runner and hundreds of others (even webcomics). The only difference here is the size of the fan base, which hasn't been shown to be a reason for deletion with the numerous "cult classic" and independent films chronicled on Wikipedia. Also, in terms of depth of information (which may or may not be a factor), there is much more here (and the show is more accessible to view) than most cancelled shows. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.43.41.199 (talk • contribs).
  • Merge per above; Actually, such cult classics are considered for inclusion because of celebrities being involved. As soon as it concerns an independant film, awards and audience are generally taken into account. If you see articles with which that didn't happen, let us know. They should be deleted and don't warrant more articles of the same type. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:59, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

 AFD relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, —Whouk (talk) 08:26, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete... University broadcast show with limited viewship range. I don't see a strong case via WP:WEB for the online broadcast either.--Isotope23 13:42, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and per Isotope. Agent 86 16:59, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as non-notable. It appears they are using Wikipedia as advertising for the show. The audience is small and local. online broadcast fails WP:WEB for much the same reason. Ted^Talk/_{Contributions} 18:42, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, fails WP:WEB, Wikipedia is not a promotional tool. --Coredesat talk 19:46, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, non-notable. I attend MSU, and this is the first time I've heard about it. --Musicpvm 03:48, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete not notable --Starionwolf 04:23, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.