Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shawn Johnson

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep per discoveries made mid-way throughout this discussion. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 11:09, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shawn Johnson

Shawn Johnson (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

The subject of this article does not appear to be notable enough for inclusion. I suspect it is a vanity page, based on previous edits. Cybergoth 06:43, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

• Weak delete - there's an assertion of notability on the Talk page in that she won a junior title of some description. I don't know anything about gymnastics, so where that particular title sits (if it can be verified) is going to be a factor in all of this. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 06:54, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Here's come verification on that [1]. --Oakshade 06:33, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
    • So the US Classic (which seems to be the name it's given in that source) is a national title? BigHaz - Schreit mich an 06:42, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
      • I'm no expert in gymnastics, but I don't see how it's anything less than national. [2] --Oakshade 06:46, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
        • You could well be right, but I get the feeling that gymnastics is one of those sports with masses of titles on offer, often with pretty grandiose names. I'll see if there's a WikiProject on it whose help we could enlist here. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 06:50, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - ghits seem to be unrelated. Possible verifiability concerns. MER-C 08:18, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, winning national junior titles does not constitute notability. "She has a good chance of going to the Beijing Olympics", well Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Punkmorten 11:14, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. Simply being a contender for something can impart somr level of notability, e.g. contenders for boxing titles etc. Herostratus 04:53, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
    • True, although the average contender for a boxing title is notable as a high-ranking sportsperson in their chosen field. A contender for an Olympic team in a given event might be as well, but they also might just be someone who has a bright future assuming they don't break something at training tomorrow. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 05:05, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, per above. Jayden54 14:45, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Keep - after reading the Sport Illustrated article (which already demonstrates notability) it appears she's more notable than I originally though, so I'm changing my vote to keep. The article needs some expansion though to add a bit more information about her. Jayden54 16:56, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, per above. If she makes the 2008 team, I am sure WP will welcome the entry. Montco 16:31, 26 November 2006 (UTC) Keep for now, but if she doesn't make the Olympic team, then she is just another "could have been" and should be edeleted at that time. Montco 17:38, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - Won the 2006 USA Junior National Champion and contender for the Beijing Olympics. --Oakshade 06:33, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Vote changed to Strong Keep after seeing the new Sports Illustrated article below. --Oakshade 16:47, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

• Keep -Here is another page: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/dave_krider/09/06/hs.notebook/index.html

It explains how she outscored the senior division winner, and was therefore ranked 1st in the nation for women's elite gymnastics. A post above was skeptical about the competition. It is the national title competition for the USA.

• Keep - Strong keep, actually, even though I hadn't heard of her until I read this AfD. US national junior champ in her sport, coverage of her success in a dedicated Sports Illustrated article, and a medal prospect in the upcoming Olympics. Notable enough for me. --DeLarge 15:55, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

• Keep - Well, I change my mind too, based on the above. - Cybergoth 17:06, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.