Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sealed With A Kiss Presents

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete all. Mailer Diablo 10:42, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sealed With A Kiss Presents

Also listing the following for nomination:

• Jason Lajeunesse
• Dani Vachon

Despite having some bands of note on their client list, this is a concert production company that appears to fail WP:CORP, with just 27 unique Google hits and an Alexa ranking below 1.5m. The above two articles appear to be vanity pieces for the two founders of the company and fail WP:BIO. All seem likely hard to verify. ~ Matticus78 08:51, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

• Hey there, I am the author of these articles. I'm new to adding material to this site, and because I read a bunch of the pre-post information, i didn't think i was doing anything wrong... I realize citing is important, and I could go through and do it given the abundance of press each topic has received, but I just don't have the time to make this a reality. If that makes the topics moot, then so be it, I just thought people might want to know about the subject of these articles. The band I manage, You Say Party! We Say Die! has a very detailed Wikipedia listing, my good friend Dennis Lyxzen has his own Wikipedia listing, my colleague Frank Kozik, a poster artist and toy maker, has his own Wikipedia listing... and so I was thinking my articles might be relevant. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Danivachon (talk • contribs) 10:11, 19 July 2006 (UTC).

• Keep All – I moved from Toronto to Vancouver one year ago, and have been an active participant (on stage and in the audience) in the independent music scene in Canada since 1996. I can say for certain that, in the Vancouver indie scene, there is no production company larger or more prolific than Sealed With a Kiss. A vote against the inclusion of Sealed With a Kiss is a vote against the inclusion of independent music in Vancouver. According to the city's most popular concert tracker, Live Music Vancouver, Sealed With a Kiss currently has 22 shows booked, and 159 in the back catalog [1], a record that few of these production companies can boast. Further to my vote to keep the Sealed With a Kiss entry, I believe that the contribution that Jason Lajeunesse and Dani Vachon have made to Sealed With a Kiss, and independent music in Vancouver in general, should qualify their articles for retention. Somewhat lacking in style and structure, however, they could use some editing... --Steveluscher 06:31, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • The AfD discussion is about notability and whether an article is suitable for inclusion in an encyclopedia, not about whether the subject of the article is generally worthwhile. Statements like "A vote against the inclusion of Sealed With a Kiss is a vote against the inclusion of independent music in Vancouver" are a both emotive and specious in this context; the question of whether an article should be kept or deleted should be based on WP policies and guidelines. The lineup of artists listed is certainly significant and most, if not all, of them are notable. It's not clear to me whether a concert production company involved with them becomes notable or not, so at this point I abstain. Paddles ^T_C 14:47, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Non notable production company. --Ageo020 02:42, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

 AFD relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Mailer Diablo 20:50, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as per Matticus78. -- Kjkolb 03:29, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete all per nom, fails WP:CORP and WP:BIO. --Coredesat talk. o.o;; 03:54, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete all vanity/promo. Wikipedia is not an advertising service. This is really obnoxious. Wile E. Heresiarch 06:03, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete SWAK Presents and Jason Lajeunesse as vanity/nn, unencyclopedic. Merge Dani Vachon to You Say Party! We Say Die! (i.e. with a mention in that article), if appropriate. Danivachon's reference to the articles Dennis Lyxzen and Frank Kozik as "listings" indicates non-understanding that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia (WP:ENC), not a business directory, and it does not have "listings".

  I suggest review and possible AfD of the Dennis Lyxzen and Frank Kozik articles as well. Dennis Lyxzen is connected to a definitely notable band with its own article, but his notability on his own is less clear. Frank Kozik's just seems marginal all around. Phr (talk) 06:42, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.