Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Salo in Space (2 nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 08:13, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Salo in Space

Delete Since the previous "no consensus" AFD nomination the notability of this webcomics is still close to none. What is more, it looks like it is dead since February. I previously voted to merge/redirect, because of some cultural curiosity, but now my opinion swayed. Mukadderat 02:56, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

• Keep per previous vote. --Irpen 03:13, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete to my knowledge, no evidence has been presented that this topic meets WP:WEB, and the actual article certainly doesn't assert meeting that guideline, or any importance in general. I invite people to present actual evidence, but mere guesses that this might be important... maybe... should really be discounted by the closing admin. --W.marsh 03:42, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete NN. -Kmaguir1 08:37, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep. per previous votes. Alright, per reasons given by Mikka and Mzajac in previous discussions... —dimæ ^{[diskussion—archiv]} 22:32, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

This is not a vote. In neither discussion have you given a reason. --W.marsh 22:54, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

That's still not really a reason, it's just a "me too" vote. Anyway every argument those two made has been countered strongly, with no response made to the challenges. Do you have evidence that the site it on is "an independent publisher" or that the comic otherwise meets WP:WEB? --W.marsh 23:40, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

• Keep the comics.com.ua web site is the distributor of Salo in Space; it appears to be independent of the authors and is well known among its target audience population.--Riurik ^(discuss) 06:23, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Again, where's the evidence that comics.com.ua is well known? IN the previous AfD, it was mentioned that it got 400 hits per day. That's really not much... this AfD probably gets 400 hits per day. There's also no evidence that it's anything more than a free comics hosting service... which certainly wouldn't be a reason to keep if this were an english-language deal. --W.marsh 13:09, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. I was aware of the existance of this "Salo in Space" article since the day it was created by Mzajac and Mikkalai, and I would probably agree that in part Mzajac and Mikkalai were having fun creating it, as the name "Salo in Space" sounds intriguing for those who are aware of Ukrainian culture and humor. Had the comics be named differently, they would probably not bring that much of attention. But comics' name is a part of the comics. There likely to be other comics, which deserve to me mentioned on wikipedia, and I agree that many need to be mention more than this one. But, it still does not explain the need for deletion of this one.
• After spending some time, which I could probably use for a better purpose, I should say that the reference to WP:WEB by people who want to delete this page is incorrect. The policy defines web content as "any content which is distributed solely on the internet". The comic series "Salo in Space" does not fail into this category. There is an annual Kiev International Festival of Cartoons "9 World", which takes place in Kiev Planetarium in spring of each year. The "Salo in Space" comics have been nominated for presentation at the festival as cartoons of 2005. The festival was open to public. Entrance fee was 2UAH. I think it's not a coincidence that the last "Salo in Space" comics have been released in February, as it coincides with the beginning of 2006 festival. --KPbIC 18:07, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
  • If the comisc was published elsewhere "in paper", please provide a reference. Presentation at a festival does not mean "distribution". Mukadderat 20:30, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
    • In my opinion, a nomination for an international festival does mean recognition and notability. --KPbIC 21:25, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
      • Is this festival notable? If it is "international" meaning russian-ukrainian only or anyone may come and self-nominate their work then notability is dubious. It is not, like, nomination for a prize. Mukadderat 06:42, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep as per above. Odessaukrain 21:39, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete This comics is not mentioned anythere outside of their website and this Festival. Even more - this festival failed to open this year - this mean it's not notable. Get major newspaper or news agency mention it - then it will be fine. There are mere 300 links to comics.com.ua - this mean people don't like it. --TAG 19:11, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.