Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rainmakers

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete Proto||type 12:17, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rainmakers

DELETE Attempted prod but was contested with no comment. This is a completely NN group of homeschooled debaters. Doesn't meet Wiki Notability Criteria, Vanity article, Spam. Indiscriminate useless information. Google search comes up with about 40 articles actually on the topic pm_shef 05:42, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete No assertion of notability for association, practically {{db-club}} candidates.  (aeropagitica)  05:55, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. Their national sweepstakes winners could be considered an assertion of notability. --Rory096 14:24, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Delete. It certainly is an assertion of notability, true. Is it actually notable? This "national championship" (which is six years old, according to the NCFCA website) seems to pertain strictly to this organization's member clubs, in contrast to any attempt to allow competition generally between debating clubs. RGTraynor 17:11, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
• KEEP Personal preference--That cannot decide what stays and what goes. If you feel home schooling isn't proper, that is your opinion. I don't see you tracking down clubs from other organizations. Simply because you do not know about something doesn't mean it's not suitable for Wikipedia.Nate Hanson 06:10, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
• Rainmakers is the most legendary clubs in the NCFCA (which has as many competitors as the NFL). Nate Hanson 06:12, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

• Comment As i told User:Nait I have nothing against homeschooling, or debating, I just don't see this as a legitimate Encyclopedia article. If you show me articles about non-homeschooled debate clubs i'll nominate those for AfD too! pm_shef 06:15, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom Melchoir 06:24, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. --Khoikhoi 07:47, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, non notable club. --Rory096 14:24, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep There is no standard on Wikipedida for which clubs are notable enough and which aren't. Is it how many hits come up in a Google search (as pm_shef argued) or is it how well certain clubs have competed in their respective competitions (as was argued on another NCFCA club page: here.) Because there is no standard for clubs, it cannot come down to certain members deeming that one club is more notable than another or that there is a certain level of notability that is required. That level of notability is not concrete. Therefore a keep vote is definitely justified and strongly urged. - Nate Hanson 14:54, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

I might add that this is not a vote, and Wikipedia is not a democracy, btw. --Rory096 16:38, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Removed second opinion rendered... please only say Keep or Delete once per AfD.--Isotope23 18:31, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, no evidence of external notability. If someone can prove that the Rainmakers have gotten press coverage from a WP:RS source or something along those lines, I'll reconsider.--Isotope23 18:36, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. No apparent assertion of notability (though this Alex Harris guy might be notable having won these championships). Fagstein 18:37, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete this club isn't any more notable than any other one Imarek 21:04, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete What is it with the massive homeschooler debate aritlces? ⇒ SWATJester ^Ready Aim _Fire! 00:00, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Perhaps because they're actualy growing in popularity. The change has to come some time, boys. Nate Hanson 00:48, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

• Comment The issue has nothing to do with home-schooling, it has to do with notability. NCFCA is notable. It's national, and involves thousands. The individual clubs or debate teams are not notable. You won't find any articles for school debate teams either. If you do find any, let us know and we'll be glad to take them through the deletion process, too. Fan1967 01:39, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete non-notable and almost no content --Ajdz 02:06, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.