Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/RAW is Owen

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Deizio talk 10:49, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RAW is Owen

Article is mostly results, making it fancruft. Anything notable should be in the Owen Hart article and/or the WWE RAW article. --James Duggan 03:48, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Wrestlingcruft. JIP | Talk 13:03, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. There are numerous Wikipedia pages featuring results from important single wrestling shows; see many of the articles in the World Wrestling Entertainment pay-per-views category, for example. -Conniption 14:30, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Having said this, Raderick's suggestion below to move the article to Tributes to Owen Hart, including details of other tributes such as the famous Bret Hart-Chris Benoit Nitro match, has real merits as a compromise solution. -Conniption 11:30, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete And to the above user, this was not a pay-per-view. This article is total cruft, and just because he died, doesn't mean that his show deserves it's own article. Maybe merge with the main owen article. Tony fanta 17:19, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Its mentioned on the Owen Hart page. I loved watching Owen Hart's matches, but I don't think its significant enough for anything more than that. Stephen Day 22:01, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. It was the first notable all-tribute WWE shows that honored a major star that was killed in the line of duty. IIRC, it was also the only televised tribute show that occured during the Attitude Era. kelvSYC 04:43, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, how does that make it encyclopedic? Wrestlers may die a little more often than most people, but that doesn't establish notability. Tony fanta 18:10, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I thought a person could only die once, no matter what their profession is. <g,d&r> JIP | Talk 16:13, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete The results of the show aren't important and the information on Owen's death is already on his page. --Aaru Bui ^DII 16:07, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
• Merge and Delete to Owen Hart and WWE RAW. — Moe 22:48, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep-Eddie Guerrero Tribute has it's own page. And these are the only times that wikipedia has ever shown any respect.
  • Comment actually, the Eddie Tribute episode is part of a larger article that covers the many tributes to Eddie. This is not. Aside from that one WCW match between Bret and Benoit, this is the only tribute to Owen, so it won't take up a lot of room in Owen's article, especially if the results aren't covered. James Duggan 00:39, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
    • What does it matter if respect is shown? WP is meant to provide a NPOV on things, not just to do or document something that might be nice. Tony fanta 18:10, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep It's an incredibly sad, but important moment of WWE history as it was one of the very few times where kayfabe was allowed and even encouraged to be broken, plus it's clearly an event that won't exactly happen very often: we hope.
  • You mean a professional wrestling match where they actually wrestled? JIP | Talk 07:06, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
    • LOL you're funny. Now go play in traffic.
      • I apologise for insulting something almost holy to some Americans. JIP | Talk 19:20, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
        • I'm not American. Just stop replying, you're only going to embarass yourself further.
    • Joking aside, I don't think this vote is valid at all. Just because someone dies and most people are saddened by it doesn't mean that it is notable. How this has an even amount of votes is stunning. Tony fanta 18:10, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
      • I completely agree with both of you. Yes, a professional wrestling match whose outcome, and entire coreography, isn't determined beforehand, is an extremely rare occurence. No, such a match doesn't, by itself, deserve a Wikipedia article. JIP | Talk 19:30, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep or Rename "Tributes to Owen Hart" Wasn't there an Owen Hart Tribute Show that included WWF, WCW and ECW wrestlers? WCW had a tribute match and a black card (ala Adult Swim) at the beginning of their Monday Nitro broadcast the night after his death. And Bret Hart came out to the ring on Nitro a couple of weeks later and said he was taking time off because of Owen's death. A lot have been done in memory of Owen or because of Owen, and so re-naming the article might be the best way to go. Raderick 03:49, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep Very important show in wrestling history.--Unopeneddoor 19:05, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

KEEP-People in the future will want to find out about this, and i know this issuse is important to so many fans.

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.