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Most of this content is already in the Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar, about "an Iranian-born American citizen who confessed to intentionally hitting people with a car ...avenge the deaths of Muslims worldwide." The creation of a stand-alone article and linking that article to various other Islam-related articles createst undue weight on the motivations/citations of a single individual. In other words, I don't see how this is any different than creating an article titled "Biblical reasons for terror" with Eric Robert Rudolph cited as the principal source; i.e., it's inherently POV. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 21:52, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Comment-I suspect that this article was created to give a more broad look at the reasons Islamic terrorists often give for their, well, terrorism :/. Since it was just created, I suspect Mohammed's comments have been used as a starting point for further expansion. However, I have to admit, i'd rather hear the creator of the page's side first so that my suspicions don't just prove baseless :/. Homestarmy 21:55, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete vehicle to post a list of verses that has been repeatedly inserted on various pages Tom Harrison ^Talk 21:56, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: that an article is poorly cited or POV is usually not an argument for deletion, but rather an argument for expansion. If this article can be expanded and cited to establish notability, then it should be. If it cannot be so cited, then that should have been the argument for deletion, along with some indication of why it can never be better cited. — coelacan talk — 21:59, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Though my nomination may not have been clear on that point, the article itself is; it's a list of verses cited by a convicted killer as justifications for his actions. As Tom Harrison noted, this exact list has been posted to other Islam-related articles before. This appears to be an attempt to circumvent the lists repeated removal from those articles. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 22:20, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

It does appear to be just that. And the article name is inherently POV. — coelacan talk — 01:04, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

• No brainer delete. Is this the banned User:DAde rearing his disruptive (putting it politely) head? (→Netscott) 22:14, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
• strong and speedy delete or rename to stuff cited by lone lunatic and then delete. --Striver 22:40, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy keep My reason for its creation was that it allows people to have Quran-based arguments on the justifications of terrorism.--Patchouli 23:12, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment - I don't think the Quran needs help in that regard, but it almost encourages terrorism. Might I suggest a different name? --Dennisthe2 01:48, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Subjective as Hell. 1) Title assumes that that Quran gives justifications for Terrorism. I suspect a lot of people would disagree. 2) It assumes that the acts of violence implied are 'terrorism' and the perpetrators 'terrorists'. I suspect those parties would see it differently. 'Quranic reasons for resisting Western Oppression' anyone?--Sandy Scott 23:41, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and above. ITAQALLAH 23:53, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Islam-related deletions. -- ITAQALLAH 23:53, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and Rename. Merge useful, cited, content into article entitled Scriptural justifications for terrorism (Islam) which would be a subset of religious terrorism. Obviously there would be versions for the other religions as well. Despite the offense mainstream adherents of a given religion take at "Satan quoting scripture" so to speak, the rationale extremists give for their extremism is interesting and a valid subject. <<-armon->> 00:17, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree to a re-naming. There should be some article explaining the rationale of militant Islamists.--Patchouli 00:23, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

OK but but just to clarify. A long list of quotes from one guy lacking context isn't what I have in mind as a proper article. I think it needs a lot of work, but as it was afd'ed 9 mins after creation, I'd be inclined to give you the benefit of the doubt. <<-armon->> 00:57, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

• Rename. Pick a name. --Dennisthe2 01:48, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as per WP:OR. Qur'an is a primary source. This topic has already been discussed, for example in Jihad article. We don't need another fork view of the same topic based on Original research. TruthSpreader^Talk 04:36, 13 December 2006 (UTC)