Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pride in Aberdeen

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. WinHunter ^(talk) 12:50, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pride in aberdeen

possibly vanity WP:VANITY; local event; W not a cityguide WP:NOT Yy-bo 22:47, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

 AFD relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Deville (Talk) 00:50, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Are all festivals notable? If not, then this one is certainly non-notable being small and local (per nom). Madman 01:38, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Fails all notability tests. wikipediatrix 01:59, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per above. 1ne 04:59, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete —Khoikhoi 05:07, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, according to Google they drew just 5000 visitors. A long way from the Gay Parade (or whatever it is called) in Amsterdam if I'm not mistaken. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:05, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Not "vanity" - I have no personal connection with Pride in Aberdeen whatsover. Possibly counts as "non-notable festival" - but I entered it as a stub partly because it is notable in being a Pride event in the middle of what has traditionally been a homophobic part of Scotland - it's something quite different from the Pride march/festival in Edinburgh and Glasgow - and partly because the LGBT culture in Scotland category looked empty without it. I meant to do the same kind of research on it as I did on Pride Scotia, but haven't had time - RL intervened, and I've only done miniwiki stuff since then. Yonmei 16:49, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
• Del per nom. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 19:58, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
• Comment. "pride in aberdeen" gets 7500 hits on Google (Google considers only the first 53 relevant). The event has a permanent brick-and-mortar address. It is arguably less local than Ben's Chili Bowl and arguably more notable than the Museum of American Frontier Culture. I'd recommend leaving it open for a new article that might explain what makes this event special and not just another pride event or whatever. —BozoTheScary 22:30, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Actually, if you look here, you'll see that it gets 4790 hits, not 7500, and those results conk out after only 53 unique hit sources. Furthermore, the Ben's Chili Bowl article documents its historical importance and notability extremely well with multiple sources and references. And as for Museum of American Frontier Culture, pointing out another weak article in defense of this one is no defense. It should probably be deleted too. wikipediatrix 16:27, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per above reasons.UberCryxic 22:34, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Yonmei, but I'm moving it to Pride in Aberdeen. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:00, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per BozoTheScary. I can see distinct growth potential especially given the cultural signifigance of bring in 5000 vistors to a pride event in a generally homophobic area. I think we should let Yonmei be an editor and work on this article. We can always revist the matter in a month or so. Agne 16:21, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete dag nabbed jive ass turkey festival.--Pussy Galore 00:58, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Um... "dag nabbed jive ass turkey festival" is not a valid deletion criteria. wikipediatrix 01:51, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

As a note USER:Pussy Galore has been blocked. Agne 15:50, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Borderline vanity. Wikipedia does not need an article on every gay pride festival that occurs in any given random locale. Small and fairly obscure. Returns only 48 unique hits on Google, a good deal of which are merely the "Pride in Aberdeen" site and links/promotion for it. --S0uj1r0 07:05, 12 September 2006 (UTC) (Edited --209.180.252.22 01:53, 13 September 2006 (UTC))
• Very Strong Keep I did a google search on +"Pride in Aberdeen"+Gay and got nearly 1000 returns. Amazing considering how specific the search was. Objective proof that this subject is notable. Editingoprah 09:13, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

• Comment: I'm not sure what kind of math you did, but I used the same search and get 768 with only 48 unique ones. That is not notable, much less "objective". Look at the number of pages of results, not just the number of results at the top of the page. --S0uj1r0 22:41, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep, but needs expanding lots. HawkerTyphoon 11:58, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
• Comment Rather than looking at Google hits: 5000 people came to Pride in Aberdeen this year. That's (about) 2.5% of the population of Aberdeen. Pride in Aberdeen is one of only two Pride festivals in Scotland: in Scotland, it is a notable festival, regardless of the opinions of the many Americans who have commented here saying that it isn't. Looking up Categories, I discover that there are only 174 wikipedians who identify as Scottish (me among them). Is wikipedia, then, an American encyclopedia, and not a global one? Is an event that is one of only two such annual events in an entire country "not notable" because, by American standards, it's a very small festival? Yonmei 08:33, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.