Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Po$$e

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was consensus to delete. Johnleemk | Talk 16:44, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Po$$e

A group of guys who hang around and play games and occasionally enter tournaments. And they all go to the same school. Not notable. DJ Clayworth 23:00, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

• Speedy delete per SDCA7, as they are generally unremarkable. εγκυκλοπαίδεια*(talk) 23:04, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

• Keep (I don't know if I have a vote, being the creator.) Well, it's a clan, not a person. We're trying to be remarkable. SK| started with three brothers, so I think that the logic of "since they all go to the same school" doesn't really apply. edit: what is it exactly we have to do before we're considered remarkable enough? Check the Four Kings clan wiki page if you think we lack content in any way. (Also, did you need to have bolded unremarkable? =P ) -saintboy 23:19, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

  By the way, I'm not sure if this discussion is deleted if the article is, but if it is, can you please send me an email at nick at anthology dot cee oh em, and explain why, and what we can do in the future. Thank you. Now, it's off to Table Tennis so I can cause my toes to develop several bleeding sores. Huzzah! -saintboy 23:31, 30 November 2005 (UTC) edit: again, sorry. I'm now registered as Saintboy, so please contact me if you end up changing your minds.

• Delete, gamers and gaming clans are not significant. Gazpacho 00:06, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Completely insignificant. Yup. SK Gaming, Team 3D, Team NoA, Ninjas in Pyjamas. Completely insignificant. SaintBoy 02:06, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Also, perhaps you didn't hear about this, but gamers are actually being signed. I admit calling ourselves "cyber athletes" is a bit silly- but it's growing. Of course it's significant. Also, can you guys offer some real critisism? You're supposed to offer critisism that could allow me to improve the page in a way that it could be kept. Thanks in advance.SaintBoy 02:24, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

It's not that all gamers are unnotable, but browsing the articles above, quite quickly I find significant international success, breaking new ground, the first clan to.... There are exceptions. DJ Clayworth 21:27, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

• Delete as non-notable. I'm not sure if the other teams you mention above are notable enough to stay either, but as per your request, one way to improve the page would be to make a similar "Notable Achievements" section like they all have. Better still (and probably the only way to save the page at this point) would be a "References" section in which you provide links to outside sources about the group (e.g. newspaper articles). Wikipedia has a requirement that information be verifiable. Turnstep 03:19, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Well, I have to admit no one has ever written about us earnestly in a publication that is credible (the school newspaper is so terrible, I can not, would not, shall not dare to post a page of it. An example is the fact that they refer to African-Americans as "coloureds"). Well, I suppose that's all then. If you delete our page, then please don't delete the other clans' articles. They are, at least- "remarkable". Saintboy 04:20, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete since MMORPG clans do not express importance in Wikipedia. Also, no other clans of CounterStrike are created, so why this? It is nice that you wish to include your own teammates, but this is unacceptable. Please advertise your clan on another site. Sycthos 04:41, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Glad you joined in. I just said whoever deletes stuff can delete it. I'm glad you all can find time to join in. Firstly though, 1. we're not a MMORPG clan. 2. All the links I posted above are Cstrike clans that have wiki entries. Research please. Saintboy 05:16, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Per-nom. --StuffOfInterest 12:50, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. School gaming clubs are not notable unless if they win the Grand High Championship of Counterstrike. Ashibaka (tock) 13:55, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
• Not notable, and basically no claim of notability. Delete - come back when you win in a major gaming tournament, like the teams you have named. (A third place might be enough for me.) - Mike Rosoft 14:09, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete per creator's own testimony. Just zis  Guy, you know? ^[T]/_[C] (W) AfD? 17:53, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Well, can I the article in my userpage? I assume so. Also, if it's in my user page, is it alright for me to catagorize it in the categories I'm in now? Thanks in advance. Saintboy 20:35, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

It's not a recommended use of a user page, but it is marginally about you so I think you can keep it. Ashibaka (tock) 23:07, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

*Userfy to User:Saintboy as suggested. Has admitted its about him. Zordrac 01:11, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

• Delete as already done. Zordrac 01:12, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.