Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Original Pilipino Music

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The result of the debate was KEEP. -Splash 16:27, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Original Pilipino Music

Original Pilipino Music (frequently abbreviated to OPM) is original music created by anyone of Philippine descent. Oh yes, I'm sure it's frequently abbreviated. Can we abbreviate it as DEL instead? —Wahoofive (talk) 05:42, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

• Maybe a Redirect to Pinoy rock or Music of the Philippines and delete the content here would be suffcient? Hamster Sandwich 07:17, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

I consider OPMs to be a subset of Music of the Philippines. Somehow it wouldn't be right to call traditional music OPM. But that's my feeling, I could be wrong. --Chris 20:56, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

It cannot be redirected to Pinoy rock because some OPMs are not in the rock genre. --Jojit fb 03:16, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

• Keep. It actually appears to be a common abbreviation. Who knew? Also, Filipino, Philipino, and Pilipino appear to be interchangeable; it's only 2:30 and I've already learned something new today. Eldereft 07:30, 7 August 2005 (UTC).
• Keep, and yes, they do spell it three different ways. The *why* of that is an interesting story, but I'll spare you. ;-) Xaa 10:00, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Yes, there are different ways to spell Filipino :)--Dysepsion 23:39, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
• DEL? No; keep... Google it, please. ;-) It's a common abbreviation of a valid musical genre, and there are different ways to spell Filipino. (OPM actually includes many genres; there is also Pinoy rap as well as Pinoy rock and other genres. In short, it's all music made by Filipinos anywhere, not necessarily in the Philippines or limited to classic Philippine music.) This article is relatively new, having only been edited by an anon, one other registered user, and myself, so of course it is a stub. If one of our experienced Filipino editors gets ahold of this (I am not Filipino and have never been to the Philippines; I just wrote what I could!), then it could presumably become a more complete article and thus more worthy of inclusion. I think this is just a case of VfDing an article that should have just been expanded by somebody who knew more about the topic. --Idont Havaname 04:44, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment the Google test doesn't prove much by itself; Googling "Original American music" or a similar variation also generates lots of hits. Does this phrase mean more than the sum of the individual words? —Wahoofive (talk) 07:07, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
    • It seems that it does, if you look at the Google results themselves for both OPM and original American music. The latter is often used to describe one artist for self-promotion or in some historical context, and while used by many artists there doesn't seem to be much of a consensus on what it is. I've listed this VfD at Wikipedia:Tambayan Philippines; hopefully some of their editors will come here and vote. --Idont Havaname 15:09, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. I'm in the Philippines, and though I personally find it a rather needless acronym, it's a common term in the Philippines. Google for opm music (without quotes). Coffee 15:40, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
• Strong Keep I'm Filipino and I can assure you that OPM and Original Pilipino Music are widely-used terms. I first heard the abbreviation when I was younger and didn't know what it stood for until I was a teenager. --Chris 20:53, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep The name or term OPM (Original Pilipino Music) is very popular. It was coined by the late noted journalist Teodoro "Doroy" Valencia (famous for his column "Over a Cup of Coffee"). --Saluyot 01:30, August 9, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. In Philippine record stores, you can find an OPM category and it is as many as other categories in the store. Also, we can add the Organisasyon ng Pilipinong Mang-aawit in the OPM disambiguation page. It is an organization for Filipino professional singers in the Philippines. --Jojit fb 03:16, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment This is why I love Wikipedia. I learn something new everyday. Thanks to on-the-ball editors like yourselves. Please feel free to expand this article. I won't withhold a vote to keep. Hamster Sandwich 03:19, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

• Keep However, the article really needs revision because its meaning in the present form of the article doesn't jive with how many, if not most, Filipinos define the term OPM. According to the article, as of this date, "OPM is original music created by anyone of Philippine descent. It can be in any genre, and its lyrics can be in any language." This is misleading. As far as I know, many Filipino artists (especially the more commercialized Pop music performers) limit the term OPM to Filipino Pop songs, especially those in the ballad form, popularize by artists like Martin Nievera, Rey Valera, Sharon Cuneta, and APO Hiking Society. I think, it's time to define OPM clearly. Should it refer only to Filipino Pop ballads, or should it finally mean: "OPM is simply Filipino music, or any type of music produced in the Philippines or by Filipinos regardless of their location when they composed it"? If this now becomes the more sensible and simple meaning, then OPM would become the mother umbrella of specific genres like Filipino (Pinoy) Rock, Filipino Jazz, Filipino Rap / Hip hop, Filipino Folk, etc. And I am for this more plain and sensible definition. --eLf_ideas 14:53, August 13, 2005 (CT)

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