Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oddworld: Abe

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No consensus. Deathphoenix ʕ 04:39, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Oddworld: Abe

The article contains tons of factual errors, all relevant information in this article is already in other Oddworld articles. Also the games described here are not two parts of the same game. Mika1h 21:36, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Note: I've removed the prod tag since it's now been taken to AfD. The original comment was: We don't need an article that desribes only two games, we have Oddworld main article for series overview. Also all information in here is already merged in other Oddworld articles (except for story section which is just a poorly written game walkthrough). Daveydweeb (^chat/_patch) 22:19, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. There's nothing wrong with having an article for the duology, as far as I can see (take a look at Halo (video game series), for instance). The article needs a massive cleanup, but should have been marked as such rather than proposed for deletion. Daveydweeb (^chat/_patch) 22:19, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, these two games are part of a larger quintology. The Halo article covers all Halo games, and not just the Xbox versions, it also includes the upcoming Xbox 360 Halo game. TJ Spyke 22:56, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep: No valid reason stated for deletion. If one sees a factual error, why does one not correct it? Deletion is not cleanup. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 01:04, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been added to the list of CVG deletions. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 01:04, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: This recently came up elsewhere, with Dragon Quest Heroes (see here). It seems to be a similar situation, but if anything, this article has too much. Either reduce and merge into the main series page, or do like DQ and have a spinoff page with nothing on the main series page. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 01:31, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete There's nothing here that can't be handled in the overall Oddworld article or the articles about the individual games. Ace of Sevens 02:50, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per CyberSkull Mitaphane _talk 04:02, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep An AfD is not a way to clean up articles! If you want something moved to another Wiki, cleaned up or verified, please use the appropriate tags. You can use the {{Move to gaming wiki}}, {{cleanup}}, {{gameguide}} and/or {{fact}} tags to help the article, as an AfD is worthless in this case. Havok (T/C/c) 11:23, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Who's suggesting clean-up or moving? The problem is that this is an arbitrary grouping that only duplicates info on other pages. I haven't seen anyone argue for a merge. Ace of Sevens 00:13, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - The two games are not two parts of the same story. Having an article that describes these two games and only these two games is equal to having an article which describes Star Wars Episode IV, and Star Wars Episode V - and nothing else. It is not logical. The two games are not a duology. The article is extremely factually inaccurate, not least in describing the two games as as a duology, when they are absolutely not, and I can't help but think that some things are there are jokes. For example, "Oddworld: Abe; or, The Destiny of the Mudokons (often referred to as Oddworld: Abe by fans or abbrieviated to OAOTDOTM, OATDOTM, OATDTM, The Mudokons or simply Abe)" - as a fan of Oddworld for nearly 10 years, I can guarantee that there is absolutely nothing even slightly factual about what I just quoted. It's all wrong-wrong-wrong. To be honest, the reasons people have put for keeping the article show a vital misunderstanding of the situation - I hope I've helped. —Abraham Lure 13:10, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - I'm siding strongly here with Abraham Lure, who wrote the majority of the Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee article which is on WP:FAC right now. But there is essentially no point in this article, when the content is covered by both the seperate games, and the Oddworld article. This is such a mishmash of random information from both the articles, and absolutely useless. The only "cleanup" this needs, is deletion. - Hahnchen 01:25, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - This looks like a rather bad merge of 5 or so existing articles. I would say split it up or just delete it. I also agree with what Abraham Lure said. - Zero1328 _Talk? 07:04, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per Abraham Lure and others. While I might support an article about the character Abe, it seems silly to have an article about just two games in a multiple-game series, each of which already has its own article. --Alan Au 20:11, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.