Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Northern Ireland naming dispute

This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. -- BD2412 ^talk 04:52, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Northern Ireland naming dispute

This is fundamentally a [POV] issue, not something worthy of academic or encyclopaedic record. So long as the "occupation" continues, one side will insist on pan-Irish nomenclature. So long as one "Ulster loyalist" lives (in Derry, Glasgow or the farthest reaches of Antarctica), the other side will insist on nomenclature to reflect its belief that the counties are at the heart of the English suburban sprawl. Politics will solve this, not rational argument. The answer may also lie with EU decress, since both England and the Free State have joined the Union, and therefore have abrogated the final say on their nationhood to Brussels. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.25.109.196 (talk • contribs) 08:07, 1 September 2005.

• The point of the article isn't to "solve" the issue, just to catalog it. I found the article interesting. Have you seen the treatment of other "POV" issues on wikipedia? MisterSheik 09:44, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
• Strong keep. There's no reason to delete this article. It doesn't try to say what the place in question should be called, merely to document that there is a dispute. It seems to do that pretty well, and (though I'm not an expert in the area) there doesn't seem to be anything here that either side would object to. I found it interesting. PeteVerdon 09:52, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
• keep. I can't see any big bias in it Bolak77 10:56, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. I created this article in order to document a major part of the conflict in Northern Ireland. As PeteVerdon said, this article is documenting the naming dispute and of course will not take a particular side. Talrias (t | e | c) 13:34, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. The page describes the various POVs, it doesn't endorse them. Derry/Londonderry name dispute is a precedent. Demiurge 11:32, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep this is a good example of how NPOV can be achieve by a balanced demonstration of all the different POVs. -Splash 21:29, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. This article can be kept NPOV, and it's informative. Punkmorten 21:30, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Exemplary way of treating a touchy subject in an NPOV way. −Woodstone 17:14:55, 2005-09-03 (UTC)
• Delete. As a citizen of the Republic of Ireland I never knew that a naming dispute existed (apart from that of communists and facists making) until I read this article, it is of little note and not worthy of wikipedia. Djegan 20:45, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

  Comment moreover its no wonder that the only article that points to the article is Sinn Féin. Whilst I don't doubt the committment and sincerity of those who have so far assisted in the article I must conclude that it only serves as a kind of media hype of something very abstact. Djegan 21:02, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

  The article is quite new. I imagine links from appropriate articles will be added in the future. Talrias (t | e | c) 21:26, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

• Strong keep. This has long been a major point of dispute and needs documenting. Timrollpickering 21:25, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Reasonable article on noteworthy topic. Capitalistroadster 23:30, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
• Strong keep. As the originator of Category:Geographical naming disputes, I could hardly say otherwise. I think the nominator misunderstands what WP:NPOV means; we certainly do discuss various POVs, we just don't take one.--Pharos 01:13, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
• Strong keep - a big bone of contention!!! --MacRusgail 14:42, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.