Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Northern Beaches Christian School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. --Daniel Olsen 01:58, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Northern Beaches Christian School

NN School, in accord with WP:SCHOOL SkierRMH 01:16, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

• Should be speedied This definitely meets the criteria of db-spam. Diez2 01:21, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Where is the spam? JROBBO 04:25, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
  • The school talks about who it caters to and somewhat about its layout and principal. Diez2 17:30, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy delete fails WP:SCHOOL (which is only a proposal, but still it's clear there's no notability here). As per Diez2, it also qualifies under WP:CSD G11. --Brad Beattie ^(talk) 02:23, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. EBBSCO's Australia New Zealand Database comes up with 10 hits for this school. Seems notable enough for mine. Capitalistroadster 02:29, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
  • A whole ten!? Must be really important! Spawn Man 02:37, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Stop bashing people who don't agree with you. These multiple deletions have got beyond a joke. JROBBO 04:25, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
      • I don't see any bashing, merely a mildly sarcastic rejoinder. Now, if the person can show that the database has any articles demonstrating notability that would be useful. Mentions by themselves aren't very helpful. JoshuaZ 01:37, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions. -- Capitalistroadster 02:29, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy Gonzales - Why don't you go home? Delete speedily... Spawn Man 02:36, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per everyone above. -- Kicking222 02:41, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
• "The lessons are interesting, exciting." - this is good for the students, but not for establishing notability. Yet another example of schoolcruft. Delete Lankiveil 03:28, 17 November 2006 (UTC).
  • What, you base your entire argument on two lines that were probably put there by vandals? Why is it non-notable? JROBBO 04:25, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
• Merge - to Terrey Hills as per WP:LOCAL. The school is notable in Sydney (a fact probably unknown to those people who don't live there), but I'm not going to win any arguments among the deletionists that go round looking for schools based on a proposal that few people support. I found more articles on Factiva on top of what CapitalistRoadster found too. These debates are ridiculous and prone to abuse by people who can't be bothered doing some research and being civil about these things. JROBBO 04:25, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Stop name-calling and start making proper arguments. If you've done the research, as you say, then you can cite sources to demonstrate that the primary WP:SCHOOL criterion (which is actually supported by most people, not few) is satisfied. Cited sources will demonstrate conclusively that the nomination is wrong and make a strong argument for keeping. Continue to be uncivil to other editors, on the other hand, and you will be only continuing to add to the bad debate yourself. If you so dislike it, you shouldn't be perpetuating it as you are doing. Concentrate upon finding and citing sources instead. Uncle G 10:04, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Alright, no trolls, but what about the above comments by Spawn Man? That's not fair... I have found some sources but I don't have time to add them to the article at present. What about some time to do this? JROBBO 12:37, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
      • They clearly indicated that Spawn Man is not doing the research that is necessary for participating in AFD. The correct response to them is not, as you did, to talk about "bashing" but to point out that counting search engine hits is not research. Research involves actually reading what the search engine turns up.

        AFD discussions last for at least 5 days. Although if you've found sources, it should be a matter of a mere couple of minutes to cite them. All that the primary WP:SCHOOL criterion requires is citations, so that editors can confirm that the published works exist, and read them to determine the depth of material that they contain (i.e. that they are non-trivial and not simply directory entries). Uncle G 13:00, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

• Speedy Delete has been tagged per G11, A7 Missvain 04:29, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per above. MER-C 10:31, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
• Comment I don't really see how this is G11, but unless it asserts notability per WP:School it has to go - Delete. Amists ^{talk • contribs} 10:34, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Where's the notability? Regards, Ben Aveling 10:39, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per above. Eusebeus 11:25, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Wikipedia is not a directory, and this article contains no information outside of what one would expect to find in a directory of local schools. No notability, no article, please. Let's try to keep this encyclopedia encyclopedic. — Haeleth Talk 13:48, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. I can't find any sources that are not the school itself, its parent body, simple directories, or this article. -Amarkov ^blah_edits 15:35, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete non-notable; fails WP:SCHOOL. Michaelas10 (Talk) 15:48, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Does not meet a single one of the criteria in WP:SCHOOLS3, which, IMHO, is a very reasonable proposed policy. Denni ^talk 18:53, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
• Merge or DeleteBalloonman 22:02, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
• Merge - to Terrey Hills Aurelius One 22:53, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Does not even meet WP:SCHOOLS or any draft of WP:SCHOOLS3. It does not have any notable alumni or staff. It does not have any clubs or teams that have performed at a notable level(the closest I can find is some students who finished third in a science contest [1] [2]). There is nothing to make this school notable. JoshuaZ 20:18, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
• Comment The school's 2005 report is [3] here if anyone wants to look through it and see if they can find some claim of notability. I was unable to find any but only spent about 5 minutes skimming it. JoshuaZ 20:21, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
• Merge/Redirect to Terrey Hills, New South Wales. There is no valid reason to delete this information. Voting to delete useful information that can be relocated elsewhere is entirely in conflict with Wikipedia'a purposes. Deletionism is destruction!Alansohn 07:40, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
  • If you want an article on Everything on the Planet Earth, I suggest you hie yourself off to Everything2 where no contribution, no matter how bad, is refused (unless you want to create an article on Everything2 itself - go figure). Wikipedia, fortunately or unfortunately depending on which side of the deletion/inclusion debate you sit, has some principles. I have no issue with your suggestion to merge/redirect, but to call deletionists bad names is only to demonstrate your own intransegence. Denni ^talk 03:09, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete and note it's existance on Terrey Hills. Fails to pass either WP:SCHOOLS or WP:SCHOOLS3. Trusilver 02:20, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
• Merge if it can. Audiobooks 21:18, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as above. wikipediatrix 02:53, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
• Untroubled by content → delete. Ben Aveling 07:25, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Schoolcruft. WMMartin 17:49, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.