Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ninjas in Pyjamas

This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was KEEP. Splash 01:44, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

I've just realized I voted in this and should not have closed it. The decision is clear however, and I've already done the legwork on the article and its talk page, so I'm not going to revert myself. If someone else wants to re-do or challenge the closure, feel free. -Splash 01:46, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ninjas in Pyjamas

Delete This page refers to a group of videogamers who have an online association. While its content may be of interest to some members of the gaming community, it really has no place in an encyclopaedia and simply serves as advertisements for the video game manufacturers. This is equivalent to adding an entry for my Tuesday evening bowling league team. I say delete due to its non-notability. Nrets 21:25, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

• Keep They are paid, professional team. No, I have never met any of them, nor do I watch them play, but if you look at the history of professional gaming, they are at the top and have been for several years. --Habap 21:42, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment There are a lot of paid teams in obscure leagues. This doesn't argue for their notability. Nrets 19:57, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
    • How about the fact that they won $170 000 one year? Keep.DS 17:51, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
    • Strong Keep As Schroet Kommando They were the de facto undisputed world champions (2003 - probably the year DS is referring to) and are probably the most consistently successful Counter-Strike team in the major international tournaments (see the CPL article and see how many times they appear under the names NiP or Schroet Kommando. I do agree most gaming teams do not belong on wikipedia, even most "professional" ones due to their tendency to be short-lived but this is one of the few notable ones in my opinion. The articles do need cleaned up though. --FlooK 06:26, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep They are not only a paid team, but they are one of the best teams in their business. They have contracts, salaries, and should be taken very seriously. In comparison, they would be more like the New York Yankees, not a Tuesday evening bowling league. --andersoft 04:45, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
  • user's only edit, thus far.
• Keep They're apparently very well-known in the gaming community and have won major international tournaments. See also the vfd for one of their members (Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Emil Christensen), the result was to keep the article. SpuriousQ 06:41, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete gaming clan/group. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 17:56, July 27, 2005 (UTC)
• Strong keep Counter-Strike is the most popular competitive computer game outside of east Asia and the members of this team are some of the most successful and well-paid professionals in international competition. The comparison to the Yankees is sound. --malathion ^talk 20:01, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, it seems. Although I struggle to verify the monetary claim. -Splash 00:53, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
• keep please but if the monetary thing cant be verified it should be taken out Yuckfoo 18:24, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

  rewrite - Tried to make it more a little more accessible to those unfamiliar with the subject, added more background information and removed the section on player movements since detail on every player is probably extraneous. comment: Regarding prize money money: In 2003 NiP (as SK Sweden) won more The WCG worth $40,000, placed third at the E-Sports World Cup worth $15,000 and every CPL event that year adding €5,000 in Cannes and another €5,000 at Copenhagen, $60,000 at the summer championships, $30,000 at the winter championships. Making for a total of $130,000 and another €10,000. Given that they also won a number of other events that year. $170,000 is probably fairly accurate. --FlooK 20:45, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

• Keep per the reasons above. I've heard of this group for a long time now. --Dan Granahan 15:15, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

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