Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New Reno RPG

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. Sjakkalle (Check!) 08:35, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Reno RPG

The original prod by User:Wickethewok was removed without explanation. This online IRC-game has a website which doesn't register on Alexa, so I think it is non-notable.ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! - review me 07:34, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

• Weak Keep - Has a lengthy history and a sizable community. -- Hinotori^{(talk)|(ctrb)} 07:42, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - Have seen no proof of this RPG being notable. Wickethewok 07:46, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - Is the only online freeform RPG set in the Fallout universe. Is also steadily expanding. --TheMick 07:51, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

*Welcome to Wikipedia! Enjoying your first day? Deizio talk 14:37, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

• • Comment - That does not make it notable. Please state your argument in terms of software notability guidelines if possible, or at least provide some evidence of membership. Note: website forum has 50 registered members, which does not provide much evidence of notability. Wickethewok 07:59, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
    • In fairness, it's not a piece of software. It's a web-based community. In any case, it's important to note that the link you just used is a proposed guideline, and not one that's actually in effect. -- Hinotori^{(talk)|(ctrb)} 08:17, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, blurb / ad for nn RPG / forum / software / webstuff. Deizio talk 14:37, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Ad for a non-notable game. And am I mistaken, or is it contained on a freespace web site? -- Kicking222 16:20, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete: as an advertisement for an insignificant online communtiy. Article makes no assertions of notabilityand has no independent and reliable sources. --Hetar 17:00, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as per nom and as fancruft. --P199 17:32, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep: A steadily growing and stable community is a part of this game. Between 100 and 150 players registered through the site, not all of which are necessarily registered on the forum, which is not a necessary step to being part of the community. Expanding currently with 50 additional interests within three days of advertising through another community ( http://www.myspace.com/newrenorpg), which indicates increased further interest from this community, and expected similar results from similar interested online communities through further advertising. Game player base and staff contains a significant number of players from a previous freeform game, InterCity, which lasted seven years and boasted several hundred players. Projections promise similar and expanded results, fixing many oversights and issues from that game.
  Willing to edit content to comply with specific requirements. user:CelticDragonlord
  • Comment user has 6 edits, 5 to the subject of the article.ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! - review me 03:28, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment - with only 100 players, this certainly does not meet any sort of notability criteria. Also, Myspace links have never helped anyone's case. Wickethewok 04:03, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
      • Comment - User has contributed to Wikipedia previously without an account and only recently decided to actually create an account. Number of user edits should additionally not have bearing on this specific article.
        The Myspace link was not meant as the sole evidence of notability, but rather an example. New Reno is a member of the RPG Ring (http://rpgbanner.eniasni.com/), which is a group of other RPG's in a banner and player exchange. Several online communities have contacted the game within the past several days stating that we should advertise in their forums as well, as there would certainly be interest. The Myspace link was placed to show that in an online community outside of New Reno, there would be extensive interest within mere days of the initial advertisement. Advertisement and interest is not solely limited to MySpace.user:CelticDragonlord
• Delete. First notability, then Wikipedia, please. -- ReyBrujo 23:27, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: Now, if it is still insisted that the article be deleted for now until we can demonstrate to you that we are a notable game and community and that the game does deserve an article, is it possible to put a hold on the article (keep it hidden/restricted) until the time that we can edit it to meet the notability criteria?
  And, apart from a growing player base of about 150 and interested others of around the same number, consisting of stable players stemming from a game that started 9 years ago, including international interest and representation in at least four outside gaming and Fallout communities, what might the community here suggest as additional measures to demonstrate our notability? -- CelticDragonlord 10:32, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.