Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nerd Boy
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This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was KEEP. IceKarmaॐ 03:21, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Nerd Boy
nn webcomic, 166 unique Google hits, can't get an Alexa ranking. User:Zoe|(talk) 05:30, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. This is primarily Usenet-, not web-, based. Has a respectable 4,840 hits on Google Groups. —Cryptic (talk) 11:23, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
- Keep, per very respectable google groups hits. Kappa 13:28, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Raising the Google count by searching elsewhere is a pretty cheap trick. Utterly non-notable webcomic. / Peter Isotalo 16:25, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
- The Google groups hits are all to one group. This does not establish notability. User:Zoe|(talk) 21:20, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
- I don't deny that most of the hits are to alt.ascii-art, but far from all are. Also note that it meets both the alternate and the "alternate alternate" proposals on WP:COMIC; it has been on the web for more than four years, has over 600 strips, and was not written by the comic's creator. —Cryptic (talk) 13:38, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
- I think you're letting your preference for either web comics or this particular web comic cloud your judgement, Cryptic. Anything web based that has been around for four years and doesn't manage to amass more than 1,000 Google hits is inherently obscure and non-notable. This is no better than all those garage bands who try to convince us to keep their vanity pages. / Peter Isotalo 15:18, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
- I'm not sure how Zoe narrowed her search, but a bare "Nerd Boy" gets 62,700, 669 of which are unique. Obviously not all are relevant, but the comic does get the #1 hit. —Cryptic (talk) 15:25, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
- I think you're letting your preference for either web comics or this particular web comic cloud your judgement, Cryptic. Anything web based that has been around for four years and doesn't manage to amass more than 1,000 Google hits is inherently obscure and non-notable. This is no better than all those garage bands who try to convince us to keep their vanity pages. / Peter Isotalo 15:18, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
- I don't deny that most of the hits are to alt.ascii-art, but far from all are. Also note that it meets both the alternate and the "alternate alternate" proposals on WP:COMIC; it has been on the web for more than four years, has over 600 strips, and was not written by the comic's creator. —Cryptic (talk) 13:38, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete; please stop the insanity. ♥purplefeltangel (talk) ♥ (Contributions) 23:58, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. This is a one-newsgroup phenomenon. — Phil Welch 00:03, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. The web-comics are not bad. --Vsion 00:36, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
- We're voting on whether it deserves an encyclopedic article, not whether either a certain web comic or web comic in general are bad. Historical personalities can be deleted for getting fewer than 166 Google hits, and this thing exists only online. It's not even remotely popular among its peers. / Peter Isotalo 12:52, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
- Which historical personality was deleted for having fewer than 166 google hits? Kappa 13:21, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
- How about you explain to us why 166 Google hits is enough to call a web comic notable instead? / Peter Isotalo 15:18, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
- To clarify my earlier comment: I was actually about to vote delete until I looked at the comics strips, I was really impressed and decided that it deserves an encyclopedic article. --Vsion 16:33, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
- If you make an implausible assertion like that, you should be prepared to back it up. Kappa 18:09, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
- How about you explain to us why 166 Google hits is enough to call a web comic notable instead? / Peter Isotalo 15:18, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
- Which historical personality was deleted for having fewer than 166 google hits? Kappa 13:21, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
- We're voting on whether it deserves an encyclopedic article, not whether either a certain web comic or web comic in general are bad. Historical personalities can be deleted for getting fewer than 166 Google hits, and this thing exists only online. It's not even remotely popular among its peers. / Peter Isotalo 12:52, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
- Keep this is the most successful ASCII-art webcomic. The genre-defining one. What's next? VfDing Megatokyo? Grue 15:24, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. --Calton | Talk 21:10, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. The idea that notability can be obtained via Google Groups results is mindboggling; by that standard, I wouldn't be surprised if I'm more notable than this is. Searching for "Nerd Boy" by itself is not exactly germane to the discussion; even in the realm of webcomics, it's more notable as a catchphrase in Sluggy Freelance. -Sean Curtin 23:39, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
- It's popular on Usenet because it was posted in Usenet. It's ASCII art, man. It can be posted in text newsgroups, like alt.ascii-art. I can post a message there and this vote would be swamped by thousands of Nerd Boy fans (by the way, search for "nerdboy" as well for more hits). Internet is not only World Wide Web but also other networks. Wikipedia shouldn't limit itself to WWW when describing various Internet phenomena. Grue 13:02, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete nn. Dottore So 15:56, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- Please explain how comic translated into two languages by fans is "nn". It would be funny that Polish and Swedish Wikipedias have an article about Nerd Boy, while English doesn't. Grue 16:51, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. This is a notable usenet comic, and has also a notable fan-base. I would attempt to use Google's Search facility correctly to those Deletionists who have no clue: i.e. TYPE IN "Nerd Boy web comic" and presto: Nerd Boy on GooglePiecraft 02:42, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- I assume you're not being serious. That's a search for each word separately. Applying that technique would make anything look super-notable. The proper search is +"Nerd Boy" +"web comic". / Peter Isotalo 21:38, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. I think it's part of internet history now, like maybe bastard operator from hell. Btw, judging something by "google hits" and "alexa ranking" reminds me Asimov's Fundation; i remember paragraph about research. Janusz 07:03, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. I believe it's quite well known. I also think it's more of a usenet comic than a webcomic; that sets it apart from most of the other webcomics here. It's also one of the very few ascii art webcomics; that should also counts for something. Oliphaunt 19:09, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- Keep, it's verifiable and wiki isn't paper. It doesn't come under any point at What Wikipedia is not. ··gracefool |☺ 14:02, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
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