Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Monster (Lost)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was DELETE. JIP | Talk 07:29, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Monster (Lost)

Recommend Speedy Deletion as this article is original research into a minor element of the Lost television series. The element (not even a character) is already covered in the main Lost article as well as the Lost episode summary pages. Rillian 11:30, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per WP:NOR. PJM 12:26, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as above (no relevant speedy criterion) Just zis  Guy, you know? ^[T]/_[C] AfD? 12:51, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Unnecessary article. All info already included in episode and character pages. Danflave 14:25, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. The Lost-cruft jumped the shark a while back... --DDG 15:19, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete for now, or Merge any sections not included. May be valid for a full article in the future when its purpose is understood more. Essexmutant 15:43, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. I disagree that it's "original research", but it is redundant and unnecessary, and adds nothing to Lost lore. --PKtm 15:59, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. The Original Research is speculating the cloud of smoke is "the unseen creature" that killed the pilot (there's no way to know that); in asserting that "Locke came face to face with the creature" (again, unknowable); in saying it "attacks him for unknown reasons...using what appeared to be some sort of appendage"; and in stating that it makes noises like "moaning", "machine-like" and "growls." This is pure interpretation of whatever the smoke cloud may be, and is not (as yet) deserving of a separate Wikipedia article. —LeFlyman 18:04, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Addendum: Some have suggested "merge" for this material, however, it's not been revealed as yet just what the "smoke cloud" is, and whatever we might say about it would be speculative in nature. There is already a note about its existence in the Lost (TV series)#Fan speculation section-- where previously the theory it was a dinosaur was dismissed-- which is the only place I can think of that it would belong (for the time being.) —LeFlyman 22:01, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. It's far too early in the series for such an article to be written. Any article on the "security system" would have to be full of OR at this point, and this will probably remain so until very near the end of the series (assuming, of course, it's not another MacGuffin like the numbers). This article should be removed at this time, regardless of whether such an article will exist at some later date in a few years. Baryonyx 19:08, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:NOR and policy on fancruft. --M@thwiz2020 00:10, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Merge the parts that aren't speculation with Lost_(TV_Series)#Story_elements. The monster is a large enough presence in the series to deserve at least a small mention in the main article. The "numbers" have a paragraph there, and the monsther should as well.-Colin Kimbrell 14:59, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
• Merge non-speculative elements into main Lost article. The "monster" is still a pretty important part of the show, like the Hatch. Doesn't deserve a whole article, but definitley a big mention.-68.34.76.34 19:17, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
• Merge into Story elements, PER cOLIN Sceptre ^(Talk) 20:37, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.