Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mick McConnell

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Mangojuice^talk 05:37, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mick McConnell

Questionable Notability. Book is on Amazon, but not notable. Website exists, but again is not notable. No reason for article to exist. Fopkins | Talk 18:41, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

LAX won a national design award at the American Center for Design in 1994. In addition, Print Magazine awarded it in 1994 a top design award as well thus making the book notable.

tomdobbs.com has been featured in discussions on Entertainment Tonight and is watched by Morgan Creek and Universal Studios to track feedback about the film, Man of the Year.

• Delete. The article tells us that Mr. McConnell is a designer with an eye on everything and that he is developing his own brand identity. WP:BIO suggests that we want mostly people with somewhat more focused specialties, or who already have a "brand identity." While I'd be open to keeping this if it were rewritten to provide more precise (or at least more formally stated) indicia of notability, it would at minimum to be recast in encyclopedic style. - Smerdis of Tlön 19:15, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I have revised the description of Mick McConnell to be more encyclopedic.Itsacult 22:07, 15 August 2006 (UTC)Raymond McConnell

• • Comment - Unfortunately, it is still not notable in my opinion. :) There are also no citations or references in the entire article. Fopkins | Talk 22:41, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Fails WP:BIO. Cited URL tomdobbs.com seems to be a political campaign site still in a countdown to launch (or countdown to something), I don't see anything there about a movie, and there are no links to or from it; 14 unique Google hits for the LAX book (ranked #2,731,838 at Amazon.com); more information found about Mick McConnell the guitarist than McConnell the architect, and I spent 20 minutes looking. Baseball,Baby! ^{balls•strikes} 22:54, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

tomdobbs.com is a grassroots campaign about change in politics and it is supposed to be about the candidate and is an underground, viral method of creating intrigue about a film. The countdown is to the premier. Again, the book is an architecture theory book - these are not printed in large quantities - ever - because the market for these is not huge. Notable architecture books do not have to be bestsellers. I think his book is an excellent example of writing about a period in time where deconstructivist architecture, serious theorists, and unrest in LA came together and looked at a situation. It is still used in schools in architecture today - SCI-Arc for example. The ACD100 award is a prestigious design award in Graphic Design and adds to the idea that the book is notable. As for the guitarist, there are other Mick McConnells, yes. I was just trying to create a listing for a friend and colleague that I have worked with and thought it was time.Itsacult 05:36, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

The person made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in their specific field (see also Wikipedia:Notability#Don't delete historical persons based on modern tests.Itsacult 05:41, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

"Don't delete historical persons based on modern tests" applies to historical persons who did not live in a time where anything and everything can be found on google. This guideline does not apply to the living. Fopkins | Talk 05:48, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

LAX, the book, is notable because of its award in the American Center for Design's 100 show. Quote from Walker Art Museum, The 100 Show is considered the toughest graphic design competition in the U.S., entered by invitation only. Each year 100 winners are selected in the categories of announcements, brochures, books, annual reports, and programs, and are presented in the 100 Show annual publication.Itsacult 05:55, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

This is a tough crowd considering there is no harm in this entry and there are so many bad entries on wikipedia. What is the problem with this, really?Itsacult 05:57, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

The don't delete historical persons comment is not applicable because it was not what I was referring to above. The person made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in their specific field. This is the important part. The SEE ALSO comment came from wikipedia.Itsacult 06:02, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I guess the point we are trying to make here is that you have not proven that Mick McConnell has made a significant contribution in his field. 14 unique links on google and a book with no reviews/sales on amazon are not enough to show a significant contribution to the field. Fopkins | Talk 06:36, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Arts-related deletions. -- the wub "?!" 09:57, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Lecturer, Author, Senior Designer on over 1 billion square feet of construction including the Preussag Arena in Hanover, Germany for the World Expo 2000, the Coliseo de Puerto Rico José Miguel Agrelot in San Juan, Puerto Rico and more.Itsacult 17:39, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.