Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Molovinsky
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This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was DELETE. -Splash 00:24, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Michael Molovinsky
Marked as a CSD but isn't. No vote. --fvw* 05:15, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete Don't think Wikipedia should include every person who's run for political office. --NeilN 05:36, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete Running for Mayor of Allentown, Pennsylvania as Third Party candidate. The Mayor of Allentown may be notable enough for Wikipedia but I doubt that a candidate for mayor is. Capitalistroadster 05:54, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
- Wfm, delete per Capitalistroadster. --fvw* 06:00, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete per Capitalistroadster. --Alan Au 06:25, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
- Now we're living here in Allentown / and they're closing all the factories delete. Sdedeo 19:48, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
- Don't Delete This is a conprehensive online encyclopedia, why can't we be inclusive and have a broad spectrum of people. He might only be a candidate in your eyes but you don't live in Allentown and see the force he is having on local politics. Imagine if you just randomly erased political candidates names from here because you as the holy Gods of Wikipedia deem them unworthy. Benjamin Franklin never held a major elected office, maybe he is not worthy to be on here. Ralph Nader and Ross Perot were only third party candidates, maybe they shouldn't be included here.Shouldn't we accept all of God's creatures great and small. Who are we to judge someones entire life as unworthy of inclusion. I think this entire policy of notability is just plain facist and bordering on out right Big Brotherism. We are all people and no one is worthy or not worthy. We should have no policy of notibility and include everyone great and small. We are human beings, we are flesh, we suffer and die everyday and every single person is worthy. Who are you to judge someones worthiness, you spend most of your time editing an online encyclopedia for free, are you so superior. Let him be included, let everyone who has taken a breath on this green earth be included and let them stand amongst us all, naked and bare, human beings taking their place in this universe. Bodhi395
- Merge into an article on the election in question, or otherwise delete unless he's done something different than the tens of thousands of other mayoral candidates across the world.
Ralph Nader and Ross Perot recieved press notoriety and more than a handful(at that level, I define a handful as less than 30,000 votes)during the presidential campaigns(most people don't realize that there are actually 20-30 candidates for U.S President in each party if it doesn't hold the presidency, 5-10 if it does, we have to see most of them here in New Hampshire.)
Benjamin Franklin invented the Post Office, the Fire department, the public Library, the bifocals, the Potbellied Stove, was an Ambassador to France during the Revolutionary War and signed the Declaration of Indpendence, among other things. Ironically enough, he stood in front of his window "naked and bare" often, per Bodhi's advice.
So speaks the gods of Wikipedia... :-) Karmafist 00:58, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
- I guess I just don't understand the notibility system here on Wikipedia. On the Allentown, PA page it has as a famous Allentownian the guy who does the voice of Master Shake on Aqua Teen Hunger Force. Now is that that much of an achievement to be included on Wikipedia, and yet a person who is seeking the Mayorship is a nobody. It also has the girl who played a bit part in Mean Girls. These people are very marginially famous yet get included. Where do you draw the line? What about doctors and firefighters, they are much more significant people in society then bit actors, would they be granted a page? Or does Wikipedia value the whims of pop culture more than the true heroes of society? I think this deletion policy is just too vague and since this is a very expandable online database, why not let everyone be included? Bodhi395
- Successful voice actors are notable. Not-yet-successful mayoral candidates are not. Losing at an election is not a notable accomplishment. Now, if you want to write an article about the major of Allentown, go for it. As far as I'm concerned, mayors are notable. (This is also a delete vote.) - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 20:13, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
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- Comment Mr. Molovinsky is certainly not notable outside Allentown, and as a third party candidate is of doubtful notability in it unless that notability can be documented. My own personal threshold for political notability is can he get 5,000 votes, but that's not a Wikipolicy. Unless something more notable than being a third-party candidate in a mayoral election in a medium-sized city (pop. 106,632) can be shown, he's not notable. Caerwine 05:53, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
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- Comment Because then you'd have thousands and thousands of John Smiths in the database instead of the present 50. Wikipedia is a reference tool, not the Geocities personal pages. --NeilN 12:34, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Way, way, below the bar for notability for bios. Quale 17:44, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, because of the Orwell-style alarmism above. He ain't no Ross Perot.--Scimitar parley 14:37, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
- Room 101. If he wins, dig it up. Alf melmac 07:43, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
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