Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Meiji zaka

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete all. Johnleemk | Talk 16:15, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Meiji zaka

User:わがまま小皇帝 has been creating articles on Tokyo streets that do not appear to have any particular notability. He has refused to explain why they are supposed to be notable (see discussion here and here, with applicable policies quoted). That's why I nominate all of them for deletion here: Meiji zaka, Tsuna zaka, Shokouzaka and Sanko zaka. -- Sandstein 05:40, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

• Oh, and Tuna no tebiki zaka, too. Sandstein 05:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. -- Alpha269 15:09, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete for lack of notability. Brian G. Crawford 16:34, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete unless creator can reference his claim that Sanko zaka is an important place in the history of Japan. Googling it gives me only the Internat. Directory of Odonatologists. Can any Japanese speaker help here? Dlyons493 Talk 22:18, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per well argued nomination. εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 22:53, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
• Looks like someone's documenting the streets in his neighborhood in Mita -- and not even the most important streets, at that. I actually recognize Tuna no tebiki zaka: the Australian Embassy is on it. There might be some historical import along one of these slopes (one of the local street maps, as I recall, mentions a famous suicide in the vicinity), but until some English-language verifiability comes out, delete. --Calton | Talk 03:17, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Certainly, these slopes of Tokyo are not as famous as the Seven hills of Rome, but that's no reason to delete them. Move, of course, to titles with the Wikipedia Hepburn spellings. Fg2 10:53, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Then you mean that we should have articles on every road, slope, street, alleyway etc. in the world? If not, what notability criteria would you apply? Sandstein 11:02, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't realize Wikipedia had a relevant notability criterion. If you could provide a link to it, it might merit a change in my vote. Fg2 03:49, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Try here: Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of items of information. That something is 100% true does not mean it is suitable for inclusion in an encyclopedia. Random information on random slopes in a city is pointless: these articles taught me nothing and I used to work in that neighborhood. --Calton | Talk 04:03, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

It's not convincing, but having thought some more about this, I suppose merging all the nominated articles into a new "Neighborhoods in Shirokane" wouldn't be a bad idea, or merging into Shirokane to make a substantial article out of a collection of small ones. Fg2 01:27, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, redirect Meiji-zaka to Shirokane, merge what's necessary. I was going to vote keep, but I checked JA and there is actually no article there either (their article is on Shirokane, and the slope is a feature). The pictures to these -saka in JA actually link to the English articles, so it seems like there is no great need for these articles in JA either.  freshgavinΓΛĿЌ  01:08, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

• Comment. Apparently my edit yesterday didn't come through. Tsuna zaka makes legitimate reference to notability, and it has it's own article on JA Wiki. It should NOT be included on this AfD as the other 2 make no claims of notability. I now vote keep for the sake of Tsuna zaka.  freshgavinΓΛĿЌ  05:10, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Er, I can't read Japanese, but the English version of Tsuna zaka makes no substantial claims to notability. It talks about the origin of the name, which is that of an ogre-slaying samurai, but that makes the samurai (slightly) notable, not the street. Or is every place named for a notable person automatically notable, too? Sandstein 05:25, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

The English version doesn't explain it very well. The ogre-slaying samurai is considered to have been born in the area of Tsuna zaka, which is why, I assume, the article was deemed worthy for JA.  freshgavinΓΛĿЌ  05:44, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, then why not correct the English article accordingly? I still won't consider the street notable until the samurai himself has a stub showing why he's notable, though... Sandstein 11:49, 10 March 2006 (UTC) My bad, he has an article. OK, no vote on Tsuna zaka, if y'all consider it notable for the sake of this samurai. Sandstein 11:52, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.