Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mary G Peterson Elementary School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. Sango123 15:03, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mary G Peterson Elementary School

Delete because elementary schools are NN - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 02:11, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Much as I like Susan Stamberg, her former elementary school is non-notable. Ted 02:28, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect to Chicago Public Schools--☆TBC☆ (aka Tree Biting Conspiracy) 02:29, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as not notable. joturner 03:39, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per above. Agent 86 05:32, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect to Chicago Public Schools. Redirects are cheap. BryanG^(talk) 07:06, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per strong precedent for all verifiable real K-12 schools as seen at Wikipedia:Watch/schoolwatch/Schools for deletion archive and Wikipedia:Watch/schoolwatch/Schools for deletion archive/2005. The nominator doesn't seem to have any real reason for the nomination. Deleting this school would make Wikipedia look highly inconsistant. Deletion should not be random. --Rob 07:25, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep it is well established that schools are notable. Markb 07:51, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete there's a precedent that high-schools and above are notable, the consensus on elementary schools is to delete. -- Eivind^t@c 07:54, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
  • What basis do you have for saying that? Can you list some elementaries, that were deleted by consensus, which were verifiable real schools, with no copyvio, and no attack content? I've given links above, that show elementaries are in fact normally kept (unless you go back a fair bit in time). --Rob 08:13, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Elementary schools are not notable. DarthVader 08:46, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep and expand per nom. 81-year old school, with at least 1 famous alumni to boot. Just because it trips the line of notability as an elementary school (as opposed to high school and above) should not be grounds for deletion. Kimchi.sg 11:02, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect to Chicago Public Schools People looking for this school should be directed to a relevant article. Just having a famous alumni doesn't make the school notable in itself Ydam 12:02, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Rob's statements above.--BrownHornet21 13:53, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Kimchi.sg, who gets a big cookie for actually advancing a logical argument why this particular school article is worthy of retention, rather than beating the dead horse of inherent notability, which is a non-argument in my opinion. Kudos to Kimchi.sg!--Isotope23 14:08, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, but add stub template, per Rob. Porphyric Hemophiliac § 15:24, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Done. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 15:43, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
• Comment. Schools, of whichever kind, are not worth the trouble of creating an AfD for. Every school article I have seen here has been kept. As much as I disagree with that myself, it is a fact that the English Wikipedia community considers schools (including elementary schools) to be inherently notable. JoaoRicardo^talk 17:19, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I beg to differ. Only high schools and above are guaranteed keeps. Kimchi.sg 20:40, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

That was my impression also. After all, Wikipedia:Schools was rejected. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 20:48, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't even agree that high schools are guaranteed keeps. Given that Wikipedia:Schools was rejected, any and all school articles ought to be judged on their own merits, and not some myth that all schools are inherently notable. Agent 86 00:43, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

• Merge/Redirect — While I favor keeping valid High School pages (because they can be the final school attended by those who don't go on to college, and because of the overall maturity of the attendees and the sentimental memories created at that level), most Elementary and Junior High School pages can be merged into their respective school district. Particularly if they are only a paragraph in length — RJH (talk) 18:15, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Merging might work for some small school districts, but do you think it is good for one with 600+ schools? --Rob 18:22, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
    • A school district with 600+ schools sounds like an administrative nightmare. I'll bet it's subdivided somehow... — RJH (talk) 15:40, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Rob and Kimchi.sg. Stu ^{’Bout ye!} 18:53, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Rob and Kimchi. FireSpike 20:36, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Rob and Kimchi RicDod 20:51, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Non-notable. — Rebelguys2 ^talk 23:18, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Non-notable. Could also merge. Danielrocks123 23:42, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep There is nothing against WP's rules about a school being NN. Those who disagree should disagree in the proper context, not on AfD. --Ephilei 01:03, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. nn, whether or not it's a school. Tychocat 10:29, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep notable school Hipocrite - «Talk» 17:22, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep because elementary schools are N. Silensor 17:39, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Silensor. --Myles Long 17:57, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep all schools are notable see Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Keep.  ALKIVAR™ 18:02, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Needs expansion, not deletion. -- Usgnus 20:49, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
• keep Another random nomination with no good reason given. CalJW 05:16, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Notable. Golfcam 17:43, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and allow for organic growth, elementary schools which can be verified are notable and worthy of documentation on Wikipedia. Bahn Mi 00:34, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Keep, most schools are notable. bbx 06:58, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

• Keep, Strong precdent for schools to be included. Subject of utmost importance.--Auger Martel 11:55, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.