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[edit] Motorcycle land speed record

Motorcycle land speed record (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

Wikipedia is not a list of things; claims to have been "under construction" by creator who's not returned. Patstuarttalk|edits 00:06, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Keep. What this article really needs is a {{cleanup}} tag in place of the "under construction" phrase, and serious re-writing by someone who knows the topic. The term itself has plenty of ghits appears to be commonly used in the world of speed enthusiasts, and is highly capable of a proper article. Bad writing and lack of proper wikification really doesn't mean the article ought to be deleted. Agent 86 01:09, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. This is worthwhile material and there's precedence for this kind of material on the Wiki. As Agent 86 says above, AfD is not Cleanup. A Train take the 01:43, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep I was in the middle of editing Flight airspeed record when I took a break and saw this AFD. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 01:53, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep the article can be cleaned up but is important enough not to be deleted. TSO1D 02:32, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Per above. Daniel5127 <Talk> 02:52, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
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The result was Speedy Delete. — ERcheck (talk) 05:10, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Voipgo

Voipgo (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

Does not meet WP:CORP BJTalk 00:16, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete Searched and could only find various directory listings and advertisements. Original poster, Pascacontribs, has only added Voipgo to List of commercial voice over IP network providers and added this single entry. User has also removed the WP:CORP concern from the article without addressing it. Jay Jenkins 01:52, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Speedy delete - no assertion of notability. So tagged. MER-C 04:30, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Speedy delete - smells like spam, in any case it's not notable. Perel 04:56, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] Vyt Bakaitis

Vyt Bakaitis (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

Lots of people write poetry. Seems NN compared to many other poets in existence. Contested prod figured I would send it for afd. My nom is Delete -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 15:06, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

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  • Keep. The references seem to demonstrate notability. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 00:50, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep - I agree with Truthbringer- I also admit to my bias toward keeping people from non-Western cultural traditions (provided there are assertions of notability, of course).--Dmz5 03:43, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep per TruthbringerToronto. Notability established by sources. Many poets, few published in major poetry or literary magazines. --Dhartung | Talk 05:12, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lan yu

Lan yu (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

non notable stub on an obscure person, fails WP:BIO. when typed into google, the results are for Lan Yu, a controversial 2001 Hong Kong film and Orchid Island of Taiwan. Abstrakt 18:12, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Move to Delete for reasons above. Abstrakt 18:12, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
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Delete and Redirect fails WP:BIO -- Chabuk [ T • C ] 00:34, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Um, keep, rename and cleanup. He seems to be an important historical figure, so far I can tell. ([1])-Patstuarttalk|edits 01:19, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • That he is obscure in the US or UK or wherever we might be editing from does not mean he's not notable. This is just a stub in need of attention. Keep. --Dmz5 02:00, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep and expand, you have to search in Baidu in Chinese to find more, and translate into English. We have tons of info on Simpsons characters and ones on historical people get deleted. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 02:07, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep He was an important historical figure. TSO1D 02:35, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep I don't think Google searching for romanized Chinese names of ancient historical figures is a very helpful "indicator" of notability. Even then, I still found dozens of references [2] in scholarly journals, films and history pages on Google about this person. Please include your search criteria so we can see what you searched for to get such a result. --Canley 02:51, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Rename to "Lan Yu (person)" to differentiate from the film. Perel 04:58, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep per above, I would move to Lan Yu (general). --Dhartung | Talk 05:16, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copperfield Death Saw

Copperfield Death Saw (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

It's hard to fix although the trick is curectly discribed, doomed to remain a stub, would be better if made into a section of a bigger article.

[edit] The Four Pillars of Destiny

The Four Pillars of Destiny (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

This article and the similar Four pillars of destiny should have any verifiable and useful text merged to Chinese astrology. At this time, though, there is no verified text to merge, so anyone with sources should begin a section at Chinese astrology rather than here. Delete because it's unverified, unsourced, because Wikipedia is not an instruction manual, and because I suspect that both pages are advertisements for astro . fungshui . com masquerading as articles TheronJ 00:27, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • I am also nominating Four pillars of destiny for deletion, for the same reasons. TheronJ 00:32, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep and remove the spamminess. One of the central concepts of Chinese astrology/religion and is discussed in numerous reliable sources. For example, here, here, here and even in that august resource the Complete Idiot's Guide to Feng Shui. It's even the subtitle of a book. JChap2007 03:15, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge to single article Not a hoax, enough of a seperate concept to deserve an article of its own, but since there are apparently two, with different cases, merge them. Mister.Manticore 04:06, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Oh, and Chinese astrology should be pared down, it's way too long right now. So pull off some it too. Mister.Manticore 04:40, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Chinese astrology If an article is big its not a reason to delete information. You break it into smaller articles. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 06:25, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of footballers (Gaelic football)

List of footballers (Gaelic football) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

A very undefined list that really is to vague to serve any use Gnevin 00:34, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Keep. This is marginally useful list-cruft, and if I had my way it'd be deleted. Unfortunately there is a great deal of precedent for this type of list on the enWiki. List_of_football_players is just the tip of one of many icebergs in that particular ocean. A Train take the 02:04, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep Although I can see the possible benefits of the list, I am afraid that its title might make it too inclusive and that might eventually result in a list too long to be useful. Perhaps it would be better to rename it to something like List of famous footballers (Gaelic football). TSO1D 02:37, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dealmaker

Dealmaker (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

This article, which is unreferenced at present and reads like an ad, was originally speedied under A7/G11. The magazine was launched "this fall", so I question it's notability. The creator, who by his own admission [3] is associated with the magazine and/or company and whose only edits are to this and one other related article [1], maintains that it's notable, so I'm bringing it here for review. I'm indifferent to it myself. -- Steel 21:04, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Reads like an ad? It reads like a summation of what the magazine is: a 100,000 circulation magazine by a notable publishing company covered in Reuters and the New York Times. Notability, in this case, is purely subjective and I respect your questioning but it cannot be definitive. What, by the way, is your definition of reads like an ad? I am not attempting to coax someone to read this magazine. I am just providing circulation and subject matter information for this particular magazine to anyone who is of interest in the magazine. It is true there is no sourcing concerning the press coverage and the notability of the magazine, but if that is the problem the article should not have been deleted, just asked to be sourced more thoroughly. Sabadu 21:50, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
It reads like advertising/press release copy to me Bwithh 00:55, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Note: Dealmaker does not have 100K circulation; according to the article, it has about 50K. The 100K circulation number in the article is for a different magazine. --Brianyoumans 02:10, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Google news turns up this[4] from the NYT. quote:
Advertisers and journalists made up most of the crowd. Many of the financial professionals that did make an appearance were featured in Dealmaker’s “Top 30 Rainmakers” list
This article is painfully inaccurate; this and Trader Monthly are the sort of standard freebie[5] trade magazines that anybody who works in an office is likely to find themselves "subscribed" to, but they do seem to give out enough quality free food to get regular coverage from the real press. I'm not sure where that sits them on the notability scale. BCoates 11:16, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
  • based on the NYT, 'speedy keepDGG 05:39, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
      • Uh... just because it's in the NYT or on the NYT website, doesn't make it automatically encyclopedically notable Bwithh 00:57, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
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  • Delete Article comes across like corporate spam/PR copy. Article creator's apparent relationship with publication creates a conflict of interest. Encyclopedic notability hasn't been established. All we have are marketing claims made by the launch of a trade magazine. Policy against marketing usage of Wikipedia is tougher now. Bwithh 00:55, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete I agree with Bwithh, the "citations" seem only to confirm that this magazine exists. Most of the meat of the article is still unverified and notability is not established.--Dmz5 02:04, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Considering the magazine is probably about 2 issues old, let's wait a bit. A mailed-out-for-free specialty magazine known only for its lavish launch party - and, well, lavish launches aren't that unusual. --Brianyoumans 02:29, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Agree with Bwithh. The article even mentions what it costs for a subscription. The article has numerous wikipedia links to articles that don't exist (yet) for associated people and companies. --Jay Jenkins 03:09, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete reads like a standard PR statement, and the article largely asserts what it aspires to be. If it becomes notable, great, there should be an article about it. But no evidence that that notability exists now. -Markeer 05:14, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, potentially notable but this would be unusual for a new magazine of which hundreds are launched annually. The WP:COI violation seals it. --Dhartung | Talk 05:19, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete - corporate vanity. I would speedy but it's been protested some what. MER-C 05:59, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fenella

Fenella (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

There are no links to the page, and have not been since August at least, and the article of the book from where this character originates is a stub. Character not deserving of an article, should be included on a "List of Characters" page at most. --MPD01605 (T / C) 00:40, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete. The article is too short to be helpful. In my opinion, the corresponding book's page is too short to warrant even a List of Characters page. PullToOpen 01:37, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete I agree, even if the book's page is brought up to par, the book itself would have to become a lot more well-known before every minor character in it warrants a page here.--Dmz5 02:05, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. MER-C 06:05, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Custom essay

Custom essay (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

This appears to be a made-up term for an essay written on a subject of choice. When I prodded it, it was half how-to and half-completely made up- the links added by its author bear no relevance to the article. Anyway, I think this is an unverifiable neologism. I should also mention the Wiktionary article does not exist, and the Essay article has no mention of such a topic. Wafulz 00:54, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete per NOT dictionary, esp for this kind of "term". meshach 02:17, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per Wikipedia:Not for essays on neologisms you originally made up in school one day.Koweja 02:27, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. TSO1D 02:38, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per above, somewhat like a how-to. MER-C 06:05, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
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The result was speedily deleted by Nihonjoe. MER-C 06:00, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Glenn Murray (Copywriter)

Glenn Murray (Copywriter) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

Looks like a resume, and if not, a bio of a company that is not notable. JudahBlaze 01:09, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete. We're not a resume service, either. --Dennisthe2 02:21, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Considering this article is written by Divinewrite and according to web searches, Glen Murray is the director of a company called Divinewrite (which specializes in SEO), I would say that the author may have some personal interest. Jay Jenkins 03:22, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
    • In that case, perhaps a db-bio is in order. CSD A7, so tagged. --Dennisthe2 04:42, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete - unreferenced resume of a non-notable person. MER-C 04:27, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Virtual Tax

Virtual Tax (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. JudahBlaze 01:18, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Weak Keep while the tax law isn't written yet, it is still notable and covered in several different notable sources. The article should be rewritten to discuss the debate rather than the [possible] tax code, however it should not be deleted. Koweja 02:36, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep There are a plethora of sources for this: Legal Affairs, New York Times, Washington Post, San Francisco Chronicle, etc. JChap2007 03:33, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete - it's speculation until a bill is introduced in Congress and scheduled for a vote, then it would be a proposal. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Also, reading the text raises the important question "What is a gammer?" B.Wind 06:52, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Franz Drdla

Franz Drdla (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)
  • delete fails notability Buridan 01:17, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • keep A minor composer, but it seems like he produced a few good pieces; I found recordings of his work by people like Fritz Kreisler and Jascha Heifetz on compilations including other works; here is the list of recordings of his work at Barnes & Noble. I'd say keep him. --Brianyoumans 02:04, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • comment- he's not in the Grove, which I usually use as a yardstick for notability, but I'm willing to err on the side of keep...--Dmz5 03:47, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jeff Britting

Jeff Britting (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

delete fails notability, only nominated, did not receive academy award Buridan 01:20, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • No vote (for COI reasons), but I'd like to point out that the information is verifiable by reliable sources, and he gets a decent 8300 ghts on "jeff britting".  !vote as you feel right, though. Thanks, Antandrus (talk) 01:27, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. I don't believe the subject satisfies WP:BIO. He has very few film credits. [6] Furthermore, he personally was not nominated for the Oscar for Ayn Rand: A Sense of Life (note that the article doesn't actually say that he was). --Metropolitan90 04:55, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. MER-C 06:06, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Montada

Montada (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

This article sounds like an advertisement. It does not state what makes it notable. There are thousands of forums on the Internet. We cannot write an article about each one of them. Meno25 01:23, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete unless someone adds refs supporting notability. Akihabara 02:42, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete until someone proves it passes WP:WEB. MER-C 06:08, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete no assertion of notability. Someone please tell my why this shouldn't be CSD A7 --jaydj 06:47, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notable people of the 20th century

Notable people of the 20th century (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

delete list cruft, it would contain everyon by definition in wikipedia in the 20th century.. Buridan 01:25, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Danny Lilithborne 02:30, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Define notable? This article would be huge and would cause a huge amount of POV. Culverin? Talk 06:45, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Since inclusion in Wikipedia automatically qualifies them for inclusion on this list it is unneeded. We have plenty of categories for people. Koweja 03:41, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • delete indeed, but who spent all that time creating this?!--Dmz5 03:48, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. And what constitutes notable anyway? MER-C 04:25, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, for the purposes of Wikipedia, Wikipedia:Notability (people) will tell you. Koweja 04:26, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
The list doesn't say that, so it's arbitary and indiscriminate. Not every entry on a list of x people has to meet WP:BIO. MER-C 05:25, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete pointless and a waste of space. --210physicq (c) 04:42, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gary Hull

Gary Hull (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

Delete Fails wp:prof, only a few edited volumes and nothing else Buridan 01:28, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Akihabara 02:43, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hannibal - The Game

Hannibal - The Game (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

Non-notable. Basically nothing can be written about it (self-admitted in the article). Basically all speculation. —Mets501 (talk) 01:51, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Johnnie Baima

Johnnie Baima (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

Nom - non-notable "star" of non-notable video (a video previously AfD'd). Other than the non-notable video, this person has no other claim to notability. If the video fails notability, and its "star" has only this to his/her credits, then it follows that the star is also not notable. Rklawton 02:05, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • delete - flawless reasoning. --Dmz5 03:49, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Borderline speedy. MER-C 06:07, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Which establishes any attempt at notability, that he's a drag queen? That he had polio? That a video of this drag queen is making the rounds on the Internet? To me, the answer seems to be "none of the above." Speedy delete CSD A7 B.Wind 06:58, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Dime Magazine cover athletes

List of Dime Magazine cover athletes (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

I reckon this should be deleted as failing WP:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_an_indiscriminate_collection_of_information. Otherwise, this will certainly grow into a collection of lists of each and every person who has appeared on each and every magazine in the world. Note that, this article is already much larger than the article on Dime Magazine itself. I would suggest merging the contents to Dime Magazine (already done), and deleting the article page as redundant. Ohconfucius 02:26, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Akihabara 02:43, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. MER-C 06:06, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Away mission

Away mission (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

Total, unapologetic original research. I thought about a merger into Redshirt or Away team, but there does not seem to be anything worth saving in this article, which violates Wikipedia is not for things forwarded in e-mails. JChap2007 02:27, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete as or and unsource nonsense. meshach 02:56, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. I don't know what this really is, but it looks more like a jaded essay about the flaws of every away mission in Star Trek. --Dennisthe2 03:04, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. MER-C 04:27, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong Delete In-universe OR cruft bollocks. Most depressingly, this has been here for two and a half years [7]. -- IslaySolomon | talk 05:00, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Redshirt away mission and redirect to away team. --Dhartung | Talk 05:23, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gay lisp

Gay lisp (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

This article should be deleted on the grounds of WP:OR and that it is offensive. - Gilliam 02:37, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Delete per nom - Gilliam 04:02, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete - unsourced original research. MER-C 04:58, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Whoa. Keep, possibly rename. The article has sources in the external links, which is no longer acceptable, but they are strong sources -- The Economist a scholarly journal, and an article that references scholarship. It's pretty easy to find more sources, too: [8], [9], [10], [11]. Summary: not all gay (men) have a lisp, but almost all gay men have shared language characteristics that set them apart. (This is a common social marker in linguistics; see Northern cities vowel shift, code switching.) The title is a problem. Gay speech characteristics, perhaps, would be an NPOV replacement. --Dhartung | Talk 05:34, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Rename to Gay speech characteristics per Dhartung. --Dennisthe2 05:49, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Redirect/merge to Gay stereotyping. Grutness...wha? 06:26, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3

Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3 (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

Unsourced rumours about a non-released game. Reposted twice, The previous AFDs are here and here, results were no consensus and delete respectively. Contested prod. MER-C 02:40, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Keep This game will definitely be released soon. A google search shows almost 400 unique hits for this game title. Moreover, the last two AfD pages regarding this article was about a year ago when there were even plans not to release this game. One year has passed and it seems that EA is about to officially announce the release of this game. --Siva1979Talk to me 02:54, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. The Google search Siva mentioned has no reliable sources. Everything relevant links back to this page, which has no information and lists its related links as "Network forums". If EA officially announces the game, then it can have an article. --Wafulz 03:01, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Also, it seems that every mention of the game's development stemmed from an unofficial announcement in 2004. It looks like the game was never officially announced and abandoned rather quickly. It's crystal balling at this point to say anything else. --Wafulz 03:06, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Speedy delete as repost. Looks like the same content with the same (non-)sources as in the last AfD. What part of "it can have its article once it is released" is so hard to understand? Sandstein 05:47, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Unreleased game with no reliable sources stating that it's actually coming out ever. Save the crystal ball for the circus gypsy act. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 06:05, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. When more information comes to, then off course the article can be remade. Culverin? Talk 07:04, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Engro

Engro (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

non notable Pakistani corporation; about $350 million in sales, they make fertilizer and sell or resell various agriculture-related products. I don't see any real claim of notability. Brianyoumans 02:54, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Keep, about $350 million in sales. Also per WP:CORP. Kappa 02:57, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment The only part of WP:CORP that the company might meet would be the 2nd provision, "The company or corporation is listed on ranking indices of important companies produced by well-known and independent publications." The company is listed by Forbes Asia as one of "200 Promising Firms Under $1 Billion" or something like that, but I would argue that that isn't a list of important firms, but instead of promising ones. And I suspect they have a new list of firms every year; making it one year isn't that notable. Other than that, I can't see much notability. $350 million in sales isn't that big, even for Asia. --Brianyoumans 03:14, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
      • How did you exclude #1 and #3? Kappa 03:43, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
        • Well, the article doesn't include two press accounts, and I haven't seen any cited here, with the possible exception of the "The News" link below (although that is brief and may well be based on a press release.) I assumed that it didn't meet #3, since nothing of the sort was cited in the article, but to my chagrin it appears that it is in fact part of the Karachi Stock Exchange 100, and in fact in the top 25% or so by capitalization; given that, I think I will have to withdraw this nomination. I wish that had been in the article to begin with, as it took a bit of digging to find out. --Brianyoumans 04:52, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. Listed in Pakistan's stock market, relatively easy to source.[12][13] [14]--Wafulz 03:08, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
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The result was Speedy Delete. --210physicq (c) 04:44, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Doug ruby

Doug ruby (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

NN; author has repeatedly removed speedy tags Perel 03:49, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Speedy delete. Not notable, doesn't claim to be - satisfies CSD A7. Mytildebang 03:53, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Speedy delete - attack page. MER-C 04:15, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Harold Ray Wing

Harold Ray Wing (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

Businessman and former mayor of Springville, Utah (pop 20,424). Fails WP:BIO. 17 unique Ghits, nothing which indicates he is anything but a very local figure. Ohconfucius 03:55, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clay3D

Clay3D (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

The author sealed the fate of this one: "Clay3D is aiming to be blah, blah, blah" and "currently in the planning stages of its development. As of January 2006, no binary or source releases of the software have been made yet". It also is a vaporware product and does not meet our notability criteria for software. TTV|talk|contribs|email 04:26, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom, this is blatantly non-notable vaporware. Perel 05:04, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. MER-C 05:15, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Theodore H. Rowell

Theodore H. Rowell (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

At first it looked OK. On second glance nothing of particular note or importance, likely just a puff piece. Akihabara 07:18, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete, was ready to give it a second chance as he's from around me, but he was just a local businessman/politician. --Dhartung | Talk 16:28, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak keep on reconsideration. Some poking around indicates he may be notable as the "discoverer" (although the science was done by somebody else) of burbot liver oil's vitamin content, making the "trash" fish an economic resource. There are very few sources, though. --Dhartung | Talk 23:48, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep. Seems to be notable, if barely. I added an award reference to the article but unless someone is willing to do some more digging and clean up this article I'm not really ready to argue all that hard for its inclusion. NeoFreak 19:33, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
  • KEEP Overall I found it to be good article, thank you for your time. Rcehoppe 08:23, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Daniel.Bryant [ T · C ] 04:29, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep I think this squeaks in as just notable enough to keep, but it really does need better sources. Perel 05:05, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Darcy Burner

Darcy Burner (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

This was listed on DRV, where the lister was self-admittely confused about the process regarding renomination of kept articles. The debate, which was withdrawn by the applicant, can be viewed here: [15] The original AfD can be viewed here (closed as no concensus), that took place about five months ago.

The reason for listing was:

Delete or Merge with article on Election -- WP:BIO. Proponents for keeping the article during the July discussion centered on her viability as a candidate in the November 2006 election. As the election is over and she has lost, her notability seems to have declined. AndrewSaint 06:52, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

The concensus from DRV was to relist at AfD, so here it is. Eat your heart out - this is a procedural nomination, so no opinion from me just yet. Daniel.Bryant [ T · C ] 05:01, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete Former Microsoft employee and NN election candidate. We keep articles on politicians, not also-rans. -- IslaySolomon | talk 05:08, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per Islay. MER-C 05:22, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete failed candidate. Nothing else suggests notability. Montco 05:44, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. The original AFD happened before the election; since she didn't win, perhaps it's best to remove it. --Dennisthe2 05:52, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Diane Farrell another congressional candidate went through several AfDs and I believe was ultimately kept. Burner was a real candidate in one of the most contested races this cycle and she nearly won. She may run again or she may run for another political office. Even if she dropped off the face of the Earth tomorrow an article about her would still be useful for anyone interested in Washington state's political history. Personally, I've used articles on failed congressional candidates in the past to learn more about the opponents current congressmen have defeated. GabrielF 05:53, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. Considering she received 48.5% of the vote[16], local[17] and national[18] [19] press coverage. The Republicans considered her a big enough risk that WA-08 made it on their final push [20] and the Democrats included her in the first wave of their Red to Blue program [21]. She easily meets WP:BIO even if you don't agree with WP:C&E. Bobblehead 06:13, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mojo Energy Drink

Mojo Energy Drink (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

Mojo Energy Drink seems to be an advertising page. No references are given and Google searches return almost no unique articles. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 05:15, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Locked On

Locked On (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Nick Box (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Tim Chiosso (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

This is a program broadcast on Bristol student radio. As student clubs, societies, and media are not generally considered notable per consensus, and this subset would be even less so. There is little assertion of notability, but I felt it preferable to bring to AfD rather than speedy as someone obviously put a lot of time creating this article. I also take the opportunity to propose two student DJs of the program. The articles are probable breaches of conflict of interest, the author is one Chiosso. Ohconfucius 05:39, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Comment: Can we bring Tim Chiosso and Nick Box into the afd? They appear to be notable only for the radio show. -- Ben (talk) 05:44, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Very weak assertion of notability and conflict of interest. In addition, the only reference is the program's website (and a link to the Urban Dictionary main site). —ShadowHalo 05:52, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. MER-C 06:09, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Joe Cook

Joe Cook (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

Apparently the author looked in the bathroom mirror, said "Biggie Smalls" three times, then signed the resurrected rapper into an English football club under the pseudonym "Joe Cook" ...Admin refused to speedy this, so here it is... I already copied to WP:BJAODN Tubezone 05:55, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. MER-C 06:15, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Trash. Culverin? Talk 07:07, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Easypath

Easypath (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

Contested speedy. Sure looks like egregious spam to me. Proprietary name for particular manufacturing process. I'm happy for them, but we don't need an article consisting mainly of unsourced crowing about how their technique shaves great wads of cost from making FPGAs. Only ref is company site. Herostratus 05:59, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. MER-C 06:11, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of MegaMan Battle Network viruses

List of MegaMan Battle Network viruses (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

A poorly-formatted list of inconsistently named extremely minor opponents in a game series. This list of minor, interchangeable viruses is comparable to a list of every single piece of furniture in the Final Fantasy series, or every single kind of block in the Super Mario games. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:59, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dancing Turtle Records

Dancing Turtle Records (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

Non notable young record company. Article was deleted in september after an uncontested prod, but is now recreated. The record label gets only 11 distinct Google hits excluding Myspace [22], and 24 if you include myspace [23]. None of these hits indicate any notability, outside reviews, famous bands, ... Could perhaps be speedied for spam, but I prefer to give it an AfD and get it done with. Fram 06:00, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Speedy delete - {{db-corp}}. So tagged. MER-C 06:14, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Agnosticalia

Agnosticalia (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

Unnotability, never heard of it Splintercellguy 06:03, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Claire McCarthy

Claire McCarthy (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

A kiddie prank article, no monarchs in Bohemia until 910, and they didn't have Scottish names like "McCarthy"... Again, an admin declined to speedy this obvious nonsense. Tubezone 06:04, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Speedy delete per nom. MER-C 06:13, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Good catch. WP:NONSENSE defines "patent nonsense" pretty strictly.--Kchase T 06:58, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Peartowers

Peartowers (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

Speedy deleted, reposted, prodded and speedy-tagged again, but this time around sort of asserts notability. What do you think? Procedural nomination, no opinion. Sandstein 06:07, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rustoleum as an automobile paint

Rustoleum as an automobile paint (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

WP:NOT for how-to content. Tagged for speedy deletion, but meets no criteria of WP:CSD. Sandstein 06:12, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. MER-C 06:24, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. Grutness...wha? 06:31, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. You can just prod stuff like this.--Kchase T 06:50, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] U.S. list of state sponsors of international terrorism

U.S. list of state sponsors of international terrorism (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

How can this wreck of a page ever be NPOV? There isn't even a single source for this list, and why do we need to promote a single state's opinions about other states? --Nyp 06:50, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GameComm

GameComm (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

Fails WP:SOFTWARE and has no reliable sources BJTalk 06:55, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Beta software. MER-C 07:01, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Longmont Citizens for Justice and Democracy

Longmont Citizens for Justice and Democracy (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

Local action group which fails WP:ORG. 75 unique Ghits. Ohconfucius 07:02, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. MER-C 07:03, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
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