Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of famous hotels

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 18:50, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of famous hotels

I'm proposing that we delete this article as an unmanageable hopeless spam magnet. The whole idea of having a list of famous hotels is inherently both problematic in terms of neutrality and of verifiability. Just today I've removed an entry of a hotel to be built in Kuwait! There already exists a Category:Hotels which should be able to play this role. I recently proposed some guidelines for the notability of hotels which have not yet generated enough feedback for me to claim that they represent any kind of consensus but per AfD precedents hotels that have no claim of notability beyond their actual touristic purpose should only find a place on Wikitravel so the ones that end up with articles (and hence in the category) should be famous at least in some reasonnable sense. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pascal.Tesson (talk • contribs).

• Delete. There is no article on Famous hotels, because Famous hotels is not an encyclopedic topic; in general there should not be a "list of X" if there is no article on X. There are no criteria for inclusion. No references are cited at all, and almost none of the entries say anything to indicate that the hotel is actually famous. This list does nothing that would not be done better by a category. Dpbsmith (talk) 23:25, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and Dpbsmith. Inherently flawed, entirely lacking in objectivity, clearly contrary to WP:V and WP:POV. Agent 86 00:32, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete "Fame" is entirely too subjective and volatile. AdamBiswanger1 00:36, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete I think there is some hope of being able to write down reasonable criteria for "fame", but until that's done, there shouldn't be a list like this. Any standard of "fame" should be considerably higher than "notability". Also see discussion on talk page. Phr (talk) 00:42, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete violates WP:NPOV on its face. Danny Lilithborne 01:21, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
• Comment thanks to whoever it was that signed my unsigned nomination. Also I want to point out that while this debate is going on, I will go through the list and create articles for hotels that have a legit clame to fame but do not currently have their article, such as Hoshi Ryokan. Pascal.Tesson 02:56, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Update on comment A few articles need to be created to replace the lost content from the possible deletion. For some reason, the japanese hotels on the list seem to have an above average verifiable notability. I'll turn the links blue as I go along. Please feel free to help! Thanks. Pascal.Tesson 05:53, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, as per nom. --Skeezix1000 19:29, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.