Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of comedy songs

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete as basically OR and because it's impossible to pin down what is a comedy song. - CrazyRussian talk/email 06:17, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of comedy songs

For one thing, this is a pretty subjective list and possibly OR. For another, there's not a page on comedy songs, and it's generally considered bad form to have a "list of..." page when there's no subject page to reference. Third, even if this isn't considered subjective or OR, a category would work just as well here, if not better. I'll admit this isn't one of my more certain nominations, but it really doesn't seem to fit WP. So consider this a weak delete vote. -- H·G (^words/_works) 04:50, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

• Keep, there are articles on parody (which most of these songs are) and on comedy. I wouldn't say it's subjective, I can look at songs here and find them unfunny, but they were meant to be funny and just sucked. I wouldn't be against replacing it with a category. --TheTruthiness 06:28, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete How does one define a comedy song? Does it differ from a parody? How about a novelty song? Whereas those two terms are fairly well-defined, a "comedy song" is not really an established term. If it is a catch-all for anything that is supposed to be humourous, then the natural question is, how much of it is supposed to be humourous? What about normal songs that with obvious puns and jokes included? As there's no generally accepted definition for "comedy song," this list cannot be NPOV. GassyGuy 07:11, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

• Comment - I should've thought of novelty songs; that might be a good destination for merge and redirect? Or are some of these entries distinctly "comedy" but not novelty? -- H·G (^words/_works) 08:04, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

• Couldn't merge them all in, in my opinion. Some of them wouldn't be novelty songs as far as I can tell (I Wanna Talk About Me, the very presence of which shows the unclear criteria, isn't really a novelty song, and neither is "The Bad Touch," to name two. If somebody felt like sorting through them all there might be a few, but there're already a lot of examples at the article to which you linked. GassyGuy 04:10, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

• Keep but expand. Major work needed. Avala 12:36, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete subjective --Astrokey44 13:45, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. The list would eventually be enormous and have to be split into chunks too small to be much use. Say 1% of all the songs performed by notable groups? How many is that - ten thousand, a hundred thousand? It's also a bit subjective - e.g. is a song with one funny line a comic song? Jll 15:53, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete POV, I could add all hymns because I find a measure of humor of people singing the praises of a (probably) non-existent deity, then leaving church and acting entirely contrary to the words and spirit of what they just sang: just the picture of a bunch of hawk congressmen/generals/etc. choking on Xmas carols about "Peace on Earth" and such is a comedy, equal in my POV to Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer. Carlossuarez46 21:55, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep though the article does have some obviousky structurial flaws it is a good start and maybe with a few introductory paragrapgs could greatly improve.Dhawk1964 03:52, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Next time, make it an article on "comedy songs" including a section on "song parodies" as well as "comedy dialect songs" such as "I Yust Go Nuts at Christmas." These date back to the very first records by Edison. As a raw list it is not compelling. It does not even give the year, and how many are from the 1950's or earlier? Most of the songs are unfamiliar and the titles themselves are not generally funny. Come up with the top selling comedy songs, what made them funny, changing standards on aceptable stereotyping ("The Preacher and the Bear" for instance).Edison 05:03, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per GassyGuy. --Hyphen5 06:04, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete There is a Category:Comedy songs, and I've added a few of these to it. Categories are a much better structure for this sort of thing. This list seems very subjective. With categories the actual editors of articles get to decide and non-notable entries get weeded out in the normal way. -MrFizyx 02:37, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

How do we determine if some thing is comedy or novelty? I just found Category:Novelty songs, which some seem to feel is a distinct genre. -MrFizyx 02:40, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.