Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/LinkStation

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. Mackensen (talk) 17:31, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] LinkStation

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Blatent Advertising David Humphreys 03:05, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - does not meet notability criteria of WP:WEB. Looks more like an advert. -- MOE.RON ^{talk | done | doing} 03:08, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Article was just changed to look more standard, but now there are 0 claims of notablity. Neither version seems to qualify. Kevin_b_er 03:44, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
• Comment yes, a severe clean-up has been done but I would think you would be hard pushed to expand it !!!! Agree with Kevin_b_er David Humphreys 03:52, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as the article makes no claims to notability for the product.  (aeropagitica)  (talk)  04:20, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, non-notable product. --Coredesat talk 08:07, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
• Comment tried to make it somewhat more expanded, but it's difficult to not have it end up looking at least a bit like an advert. The NAS section of the Wikipedia does not list many examples of NAS devices, and there are currently many, I think taken together they would represent a very notable subject -- Ramuka 14:00, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep this device has a significant set of open source software communities behind it developing software for it and is particularly of interest to those interested in embedded linux. I request that the moderator considers the kurobox and linkstation wiki communities listed in the article and its popularity as a novelty piece of hardware (Wikipedia is full of noteable articles on interesting computing devices) before deciding the course of action.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.34.49.94 (talk • contribs) 20:22, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment as of now the above anon IP has only one edit.--TBCTaLk?!? 06:46, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
• Comment I feel that this product is very notable, as it is one of the few network-attached-storage devices available on the retail market that can easily be hacked into a very versatile Linux appliance. These are sold at practically every Best Buy and Comp USA in the country, making it probably the only such device with these characteristics available at retail, and its small size and inconspicuousness make it a very attractive platform for this. Buffalo doesn't even advertise this fact in their packaging when they sell these - in fact it almost seems like they do their best to conceal it to the average customer, and it requires intermediate Linux expertise to hack, so I strongly doubt that they are using this site to garner a few more sales. Please don't remove the Linkstation, as there are thousands of things on Wikipedia less notable than it. Reswobslc 18:23, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
• Comment I have pretty much re-done the page, removing all of the information that is otherwise worthless to the person asking "what's a Linkstation" and describing Linkstation to the average browser. In its new state I feel it's probably worthy of keeping. Reswobslc 19:10, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
• Comment I added a few hardware specs snippits back in at the top (sorry) that I thought would be of general interest. And the Kanji for Kuro-Box (it took me forever to index the two characters :-). But you're right probably too technical before for the average joe. Ramuka 19:18, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and rework and expand. Advert wording can be fixed. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 19:42, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Linkstation Hacking Communities in Japan & US & Europe growing similarly to Linksys NSLU2 NAS device. Consider this Article to be similar to the one for NSLU2. --Flavoie 20:27, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

• Comment as of now the above user has only one edit.--TBCTaLk?!? 00:40, 28 June 2006 (UTC

• Delete per WP:ADS, non-notable product--TBCTaLk?!? 01:01, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment If a page like this were WP:ADS wouldn't it be advocating something other than how easy it is to misuse the product to get it to do something it wasn't made to do in the first place? I mean geez, how notable does it need to be? CNET thought it was notable enough to review it, as did ZDNET, not to mention LinuxDevices and PC Magazine. How about the Linkstation General Yahoo group with 2,799 members? If this isn't notable, then perhaps maybe neither is the Playstation. Reswobslc 01:17, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment It was me that started all this !!! The article was reported here, because the original was "Blatant advertising" It has changed completely since its creation (it does seem to contain far too many Japanese language links - why are they on English Wikipedia ????) The argument has now changed to "Notability" as apposed to "Advertising", so maybe the delete should be a "No" . Then if anyone wants to report it as un-noteworthy, then so be it !!! David Humphreys 02:02, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment The reason for the Japanese links is the nature of the device (I happened to have bought mine in Japan) the hacking community for it is much MUCH more developed in japan. Many of our pages are direct translations of the Japanese efforts. In the same fashion that english papers on Organic and other chemistry cite german papers from prior to 1950's we cite the Japanese sites because of the sheer depth of thier community. By the way, thanks... I worked hard not to make it look like an Advertisement. Raumka 02:13, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - well worked and wikified article on a device that serves as an example of NAS Hardware - needs to be linked FROM there if it survives AfD. Ace of Risk 16:42, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, or possibly merge with Kuro Box. It's notable as an example of a PowerPC mainboard. — A.M. 02:15, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge with Kuro Box (I agree) I think an entry for all three Kurobox Linkstation and Terastation in one place would make sense and be informative. I'll try to add it all into the LinkStation entry.. then maybe there can be redirects from Kuro Box after the controversy is over Raumka 04:48, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge with Kuro Box Ok essentially that's now done (I think it makes alot of sense), maybe a little cleanup remains, I had a previous version like this but it got chopped down, lets see how this fares. If the decision is made to merge/keep this we can take care of redirects later Raumka 05:09, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:ADS, nn product. --WinHunter ^(talk) 14:22, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.