Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Linguolabial trill

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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 12:37, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Linguolabial trill

I PRODded this with the argument that the article uses linguistic terminology to describe a sound (the "raspberry" or "Bronx cheer") not used linguistically in any language. The PROD was contested, so I'm bringing it here. The main problem with this article is that it's original research: phonetics terminology does not actually provide a name for the "Bronx cheer", nor does the IPA does provide a separate symbol for it, so the author of the article invented them. Phonetically I'm not convinced "linguolabial trill" is even the most accurate description of the sound (which begins with a complete closure and ends with disorganized noise rather than the steadily repeating contact of a canonical trill, so if anything it's a type of affricate), but that's not the point, the point is, this isn't a linguistic sound, so it shouldn't be described as one, and it hasn't been described as one except in this Wikipedia article. I wish I could say "merge with Blowing a raspberry" (as in fact I did in the PROD), but in fact since everything here is OR, nothing can in good conscience be merged there. Angr (talk • contribs) 06:09, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Royboycrashfan 06:14, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. I contested the PROD, but now I totally defer to Dr. Angr's explanation, because surely he knows what he's talking about. - the.crazy.russian (T) (C) (E) 06:23, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete: hoax with linguistic techno-babble. Peter Grey 06:41, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: I created the article, and I have no problem with getting rid of it. However, Pike (1943) did call the Bronx cheer a "voiceless exolabio-lingual trill". Especially for people who have no idea what a Bronx cheer is, that may be worth saving, as would an IPA transcription. kwami 07:55, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

That's interesting. I'm certainly in favor of adding that reference to Blowing a raspberry. Angr (talk • contribs) 08:09, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per Angr, who really does know what he's talking about in areas such as this. Proto||type 11:20, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, hoax, per nom. --Terence Ong 14:00, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. It's not a hoax, but it's OR. --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 14:10, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - a noble effort, but without significant appearance in other publications first it's original research. ProhibitOnions 16:36, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect to blowing a raspberry and merge the phonetic information that isn't pure speculation. A reasonable article, but superfluous. / Peter ^Isotalo 10:54, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per above. --Khoikhoi 01:16, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per well-reasoned nom. Joe 06:19, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.