Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Land Arts of the American West

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Nandesuka 19:52, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Land Arts of the American West

Notability/importance in question. This is just one of many field study programs that occur every year at universities across the country. ghits: [1] — NMChico24 19:35, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete vanity article, does not indicate notability (which is different from uniqueness). Gazpacho 22:16, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. I looked at the official website's press links, and they're to scholarly publications. Based on that, I don't think it has acheived importance. —C.Fred (talk) 00:10, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. I am the primary author of the article (at this point) and I disagree with the statement that there are many such field programs like this. Please provide examples. As far as I know there are not any other programs in the visual arts that combine such a range of sites through direct contact with the landscape as this program. I am eager to learn of any other models that exist as they would help the general effort of our work. In response to the question of importance, I am a bit confushed why references in scholarly publications preclude importance. Guess I always thought it should be a matter of 'both and'. Here is a list of additoinal citations and references about the program that are not included on the program website from a range of source types:
Quantum ArticleKUT public radio spotUT Austin main page web featureCLUI Newsletter referencePrinceton Architectural Press publication--with essay on programGlasstire ReviewContemporary Arts in the Public Realm exhibit inclusionExhibition reviewCLUI Newsletter referenceNPR Interview with TaylorLannan Foundation UNM Endowment GrantCCA ExhibitionSanta Fe Reporter review of 2006 CCA Exhibition
It is my belief that the string of press we have consistently received (this is an edited list of web accessible materials) has substaintiated the notability of the program---in addition to it's uniqueness. As a co-director of the program it seemed to me to go on about how notable the program is would be to succumb to the creation of a vanity entry. I figured that portion of the entry is for others (than I) to expand upon. C dog taylor 15:52, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
    • Most of the press you've received is limited to the local area or to academia. I admit that your program is unique, but Wikipedia is not a collection of the unique. It is an encyclopedia to chronicle notable people, events, inventions, scientific discoveries and phenomena, societies, etc. The key word there is notable. Unfortunately, unless your programme has received wide national exposure, or been involved in notable discoveries or experiments, then simply being a unique field study is not sufficient to imply notability. — NMChico24 21:16, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
  • I understand your concern for notability and do feel that you are not evaluating the material submitted from within its context. I welcome a review based on merits and content and thus far do not feel one has occured. It seems that a decision has been made early on and attempts to clarify or provide additional substaintiating material have not affected the view held. Being new to the world of Wikipedia, its formats, and protocals, perhaps the problem has more to do with syntax. If that is the case I welcome feedback that will allow progress to be made. If you would like to deem this entry a stub from our website and encourage other users to flesh out the entry that would be fine by me. My interest is in contributing to the network of ideas that are already underway (and referenced) within Wikipedia. Productive feedback on those fronts would be welcomed.
The endowment grant from the Lannan Foundation is profoundly notable in the spheres of visual arts, literature, and academia. Their support of other projects included and referenced in Wikipedia is not a coincidence. The program is currently the subject of a book that will be published by the University of Texas Press. I would gladly make available a copy of that contract if you would like. I will also gladly furnish a full list of publications and press the program has received if that will help in the evaluation. It is a considerable list that ranges from the very local, correct, to national and international. This listing above are only references available online and they include a range that exceeds the local --- NPR, Princeton Architectural Press, CLUI Los Angeles. A selection of other publications in print include:
Fox, William L. “Land Arts of the American West.” Sculpture, Vol. 24 No. 78 (October 2005) p. 80.
Ulbricht, J. “Toward Transdisciplinary Programming in Higher Education.” In Interdisciplinary Art Education: building bridges to connect disciplines and cultures, Mary Stokrocki Editor (Reston, Virginia: The National Art Education Association, 2005) pp. 17-30.
Taylor, Chris. “Artifact Reason: research beyond image boundaries.” Working Papers in Art and Design (Hatfield, England: University of Hertfordshire, 2004), 9 manuscript pages http://www.herts.ac.uk/artdes1/research/papers/wpades/vol3/ctfull.html (illustrated and refereed).
Taylor, Chris. “disposable oppositions.” Architrave (Gainesville, Florida: University of Florida, School of Architecture, Spring 2004) pp. 8-9 (illustrated).
C dog taylor 21:39, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


 AFD relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, NMChico24 01:32, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Rewrite. Notability is not a problem. Please rewrite in a coherent, non-advertising fashion. Mention press coverage and cite independent sources. Cdcon  19:36, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep the various independent sources writing about the project indicate it has sufficient notability. Although User:Cdcon is certainly correct in observing that the article is desperately in need of an overhaul.-- danntm T C 01:17, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
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