Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Krakatoan eruption

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Redirect to Krakatoa. Tyrenius 23:20, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Krakatoan eruption

Procedural nom. Completing nomination by anon IP 64.209.120.166 (talk • contribs), who tagged it with the edit summary: "nominated for deletion, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. This article is redundant. The main Krakatoa article is much better. Perhaps a redirect?". No vote. Fan-1967 02:21, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

• Am I right in understanding the tone of the article to imply that these are eruptions that are possibly unrelated to Krakatoa? In other words, a large eruption at Mt. St. Helens could be a "Krakatoan eruption"? Either way, the term doesn't seem to be used as its own entity--Ghits produce 15 unique links, none of which imply anything other than Krakatoa's own historical eruptions. If this term were to exist, anyone would know to visit the Krakatoa page by virtue of the name anyway. Count this as a Delete vote. HumbleGod 06:08, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect to Krakatoa. --Lambiam^Talk 19:52, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep do not redirect to Krakatoa, perhaps redirect to a types of eruption article. A "Krakatoan eruption" is a class of eruptive event. I've seen it in some Volcanology books. It's also classed as "Super-Vesuvian". Essentially, there's a bunch of names for the different levels of eruptions, and "Krakatoan" is one of them. IIRC "Hawaiian eruption" is the least explosive. 132.205.44.134 22:36, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - I see no evidence here, or on Google, that this is a generally used or accepted term. BlueValour 23:41, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 AFD relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Herostratus 18:01, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm relisting this. There is one, but only one, commentor who makes a case for the article -- but it is a very strong case. But it isn't really verified except from memory. And there's nothing on Google (apparantly), which seems odd, and a bunch of Delete and Redirect votes. I don't think there's enough here to Keep the article, yet. Can anyone verify from anywhere that "Krakatoan Eruption" is a valid term? Herostratus 18:01, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

• Googling around shows that the 1883 Krakatoa eruption is considered to be an example of the Plinian eruption type: [1] , [2]. Also, Simon Winchester's book Krakatoa: The Day The World Exploded (searchable at Amazon) refers to the Krakatoa eruption as "the most devastating Plinian event of the modern era" (p.12). So, I wonder if perhaps User:132.205.44.134 may be misremembering. Hm, then, I guess my preference would be Redirect to Plinian eruption. FreplySpang 18:20, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
  • From people's comments, it does appear that I am misremembering what I read in those Volcanology books. Sorry about the mess. 132.205.44.127 00:50, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• Preferably Delete. Alternatively, Redirect to Plinian eruption Krakatoa. Google books: four hits on "Krakatoan eruption", all referring to the specific event, not to a class of eruptions; 77 hits on"Plinian eruption", the very first referring to "Krakatau, the infamous Indonesian volcano that had a Plinian eruption in 1883." Dpbsmith (talk) 21:13, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
• Remark. There is no recognized concept of "Krakatoan eruption" as a type of eruption, so the most likely is that a user using this as a search term is looking for the 1883 eruption of the Krakatoa. --Lambiam^Talk 21:40, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
  • You're right. Dpbsmith (talk) 22:41, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete or Redirect as per Dpbsmith. Dionyseus 23:12, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect to Plinian eruption; could help with search results. Do not keep separately. -- nae'blis _(talk) 19:40, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.