Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kings of Quendor articles

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep the four mentioned, merge the rest (which has been done already, I think). Johnleemk | Talk 06:35, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kings of Quendor articles

The pages I am nominating are:

Entharion the Wise, Mysterion the Brave, Zylon the Aged, Zilbo I, Bozbo I, Zilbo II, Harmonius Fzort, Bozbo II, Thaddium Fzort, Mumbo I, Bozbo III, Bozbo IV, Mumbo II, Zilbo III, Duncanthrax the Bellicose, Belwit the Flat, Frobwit the Flatter, Timberthrax Flathead, Phloid Flathead, Mumberthrax Flathead, Dimwit Flathead, Loowit Flathead, Duncwit Flathead, Barbawit Flathead, Idwit Oogle Flathead, Wurb Flathead, General Syovar, Lord Syovar II, Lord Syovar III, Mir Yannick, Lucy Flathead.

These are short stubs on non-notable characters in the game Zork. There is already a parent page, Kings of Quendor which already contains nearly all of this information. I cannot imagine a need for an article for each of these characters nor any of the articles becoming more than a stub.

The reason I don't just merge it all to the existing parent page is that I see no need to have these redirects. I suggest that any non-duplicate information is merged across to Kings of Quendor then delete all of these articles. --Qirex 04:40, 16 January 2006 (UTC) delete most of these articles, but keep Duncanthrax the Bellicose, Dimwit Flathead, Mir Yannick, and Lucy Flathead. --Qirex 09:30, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

• Keep: Please give me some time to finish these. There is ample information on these characters in the Encyclopedia Frobozzica and scattered throughout all the games in the series. There is an article for every single King of Gondor, King of Numenor etc. from Lord of the Rings, even through virtually none of these characters are involved in the plot and are only referenced in the appendices. I feel that this is an analogous situation. Wikipedia is not paper after all. Merging the content will very quickly create a prohibitively long and unusable article. Savidan 04:53, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

  Zork isn't quite comparable to Lord of the Rings, but anyway, I would support the deletion of those articles too; none of this belongs in an encyclopedia. Yes, there is a lot in here that doesn't belong, but that is not a justification for adding more stuff that doesn't belong. --Qirex 05:04, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

  They are extremely comparable in that they both have cult followings of fans. My point wasn't that we should delete those articles too but the fact that none of them have even been nominated for deletion in the hundreds of editors who have undoubtedly seen them implies that there is some kind of consensus for having articles about things that are in fictional universes especially when the fan base is so large as it is for Zork and Lord of the Rings.Savidan 05:10, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

• Merge - Originator should merge these into a single article and turn the rest of these into redirects. Wikipedia really doesn't need this very specialized knowledge spread out amongst so many different articles. Cyde Weys 2M-VOTE 05:22, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
• Merge by Savidan, per Cyde Weys. If not Delete. Madman 05:38, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
• Merge its usual to merge fictional stubs, many of the Lord of the Rings king articles include some information on the king rather than just stating when/who they were -- Astrokey44|talk 05:55, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
• Having slept on it I decided that the mergists are probably right. I've already taking the liberty of merging most of these articles. However, I suggest that the following four articles be kept: Duncanthrax the Bellicose, Dimwit Flathead, Mir Yannick, and Lucy Flathead. The first two are described in detail in a varity of literature related two Zorks 1-3 and Zork Zero and the second two are the main characters of Zork Grand Inquisitor. Thus, all four of them have signficance to the Zork Universe far beyond just being a King of Quendor. Those four articles could easily be extended to a lenght that I believe most people would feel warrants an article. Is this solution amenable to anyone as a compromise? Savidan 21:27, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

  I agree that this is a good compromise, I think the language I used earlier was too stong given that I don't know much about the game. Cheers, Qirex 00:20, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

• Keep the four Savidan mentioned, Merge the rest. Yes these are reasonable articles, although Lucy Flathead could still use some expansion. -- Astrokey44|talk 04:12, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.