Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kaufman UFOs

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. W.marsh 20:05, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kaufman UFOs

Unencyclopedic. The article makes it sound as though all of Kaufman is buzzing, but neither the county website nor the city paper mentions this at all. Joyous | Talk 23:04, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

• Delete.Quite unencyclopedic. Non notable even if true see Google [1] see Yahoo [2]--Dakota ~ ° 23:29, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

STRONG KEEP: Go to UFO Casebook's Homepage for more info. This area has been, and is still experiencing some really strange activity. SO FAR, no one has reported alien contact, animal mutilations, bigfoot encounters and the like, just what some people call "CE-1s" are being reported, and optical aids is often used to spot these things, and no landings have been reported. Martial Law 01:09, 16 March 2006 (UTC) :)

Comment:Check out the website for a local TV station in the website listings if you want "local" coverage. Martial Law 01:12, 16 March 2006 (UTC) :)

Secondary Comment:One of the pixes of one of these things is a videotape submitted to said TV station. I've seen a videotape online and it is a nighttime video, and it shows a UFO teleporting as it is moving. Martial Law 01:41, 16 March 2006 (UTC) :)

Comment:Link - The link to the local media covering this matter is Local TV Station's UFO coverage of the Kaufman UFOs. The online article even has some pixes of these things. Contact the indicated TV station about this matter. Martial Law 01:55, 16 March 2006 (UTC) :)

• Keep But reword it. It seems a worthwhile story but should be cleaned up. For instance "As of 29 October 2005, there have been no reports of aliens landing, people getting abducted by aliens, animals getting killed and/or mutilated" can't you simply say something like; " As of 29 october 2005; there have been no further reported paranormal activity."? Maybe even rename the title: "Kaufman UFO Sighting", "Kaufman UFO Incident" something more explanitary. SkeezerPumba 02:06, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Comment:Seen the pix list of matter that people has sent to the UFO Casebook site ? The latest known pix was submitted on 3-6-06. Martial Law 04:50, 16 March 2006 (UTC) :)

Comment:How does one change the title ? Need a Admin for this matter. The article is about a continuing aerial encounter, thus there is no known reports of alien contact, no known reports of animals being killed, no other unusual activity of any sort going on at all. Martial Law 04:57, 16 March 2006 (UTC) :)

Comment:This is the pix shot on 3-6-06. Martial Law 05:08, 16 March 2006 (UTC) :)

Comment:The pix was submitted to UFO Casebook shortly after it was shot. Martial Law 05:10, 16 March 2006 (UTC) :)

• Strong delete, claptrap. Every 'reference' on this article is to a crank conspiracy theory page (such as ufocasebook.com), or to a blog that is trying to appear like an official website (such as hbccufo.org). This is most definitely not an article, it's original research, and made-up OR at that. Proto||type 09:48, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Comment:I did'nt know that the local paper and TV station are "crank conspiracy blogs" ? Martial Law 22:01, 16 March 2006 (UTC) :o

Comment:Here is a look at the local TV Station's UFO Coverage. Martial Law 22:12, 16 March 2006 (UTC) :)

Comment:Find on this FOUR UFO videotapes that depict this matter. Also check out the two videotapes submitted to UFO Casebook. These are on this link The two referring to Kaufman are Kaufman,Co.,TX. 3-12-05 and 7-17-05. Martial Law 22:19, 16 March 2006 (UTC) :)

Comment:If I offended anyone, I do humbly apologise. I am just presenting evidence concerning this matter. The pix mentioned is on the UFO Casebook link, and the local TV station link has four (4) video camera shaped icons in it. Click on these to see the UFO videos shot by some of the locals. Martial Law 02:46, 17 March 2006 (UTC) :)

Comment: You aren't offending anyone. Beyond those sources that you present both Google and Yahoo refer this article as their first or second source and we can't use Wikipedia as an external source.--Dakota ~ ° 03:17, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

• KEEP It's valuable info for UFO watchers--Dr. Mahogany 13:10, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. As a Kaufman County resident, I have to say that this is not a topic of discussion. I've even checked my most reliable sources -- my teenage daughter, who hears everything being discussed at the high school -- and they confirm that nobody is "buzzing" about the "event". Plus, all the photos and descriptions I've seen appear to be perfectly normal atmospheric phenomena. It's water vapor condensation in a vortex behind an airplane -- not a teleporting alien. Might I suggest that the UFO community go to Wikicities and make their own Wiki -- with their own rules? --Robertb-dc 17:56, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Comment:Has there been a tie on any of these ? Martial Law 21:13, 17 March 2006 (UTC) :)

Secondary Comment: 3 deletes, 3 keeps so far. Martial Law 21:16, 17 March 2006 (UTC) :)

• Delete. Nonencyclopedic. --Fang Aili 21:23, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and Robertb-dc. Cursive 23:48, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Comment: Score is 5 deletes, 3 keeps. Martial Law 05:13, 18 March 2006 (UTC) :)

Comment: Thought you might want to see this pix of one of the UFOs shot on 2-26-06.Martial Law 06:09, 21 March 2006 (UTC) :)

Comment: This one shows some kind of structure, as if this is one of the Flying Triangles, and it has a anomaly near it on the 4th corner of the picture. Martial Law 06:13, 21 March 2006 (UTC) :)

• Delete: If the sightings are documented, then it's a real event and can have an article as much as any other alleged UFO sighting. But aside from the very first sentence, it's all speculation or assertions as to what is not happening (which is, of course, much more exotic than what actually is happening). Peter Grey 06:23, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Comment:This aerial only incident baffles me as well. Score is 6 deletes, 3 keeps. Martial Law 07:17, 21 March 2006 (UTC) :)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.